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MISCELLANEOUS / Surf City - Live Murray The K
« Last post by Rocker on April 06, 2020, 09:34:55 AM »
Can anyone tell me where the recording that starts at 2:30 mins. comes from? I hadn't heard it before. Is ther more?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzNUC0vTsg
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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: With friends post-accident
« Last post by Rocker on April 04, 2020, 11:33:37 AM »
Thanks! I wonder what these conversations were like. Did they talk about Jan's health and the accident, did they talk about new music projects...
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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: With friends post-accident
« Last post by Admin on March 24, 2020, 04:50:55 PM »
I found this picture online. Does anyone have more information about it? Place, occasion, date etc? Thanks in advance!




I'm pretty sure this is 1967. Looks like Davy Jones sitting in the deck chair, looking at Jan.
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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / With friends post-accident
« Last post by Rocker on March 24, 2020, 12:08:20 PM »
I found this picture online. Does anyone have more information about it? Place, occasion, date etc? Thanks in advance!





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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« Last post by surferbee on March 24, 2020, 09:12:10 AM »
Yes it is interesting how tightly controlled contracts must have been.
A number of musicians have gone to court to reassert copyright or ownership and I wondered whether - although Jan was seen as breaking contract - he might have challenged his writing credits on Little Old Lady etc had he been well enough and rich enough.

Another factor regarding the limited photos is that there just seem to be not many taken. True of Jan and Dean but other artists of the time. Jill's Pop Symphony photos are excellent - a pity that there aren't others.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« Last post by jdman on March 20, 2020, 09:22:18 AM »
WOW, that stuff was serious. It just seems silly now.
So it was okay for Brian and Jan to write together but Brian's vocal on Surf City, Drag City and Ride the Wild Surf was a violation just like Dean on Barbara Ann.
I'm glad they gave the middle finger to all that.
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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« Last post by Mark A. Moore on March 19, 2020, 04:18:48 PM »
Iím looking forward to this book! I guess itíll be explained why it was a no no to work in the studio together. Brian didnít produce anything for Jan. He just sang some harmony. Not sure why thatís wrong. But anyway. Canít wait to read it!

It's all about what the contracts stipulated.

Jan's agreements forbade him from working with members of other acts (meaning entities not under the aegis of Nevins-Kirshner/Screen Gems and their affiliated labels). And the same applied to Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys with their Capitol contract. Verboten. I don't know the details of the Capitol contract, but there would have been a standard clause about it.

I have all of Jan's contracts from Nevins-Kirshner and Screen Gems . . . (1) Artist, (2) Production, (3) Songwriting, and (4) Liberty Records (which was actually a deal with Nevins-Kirshner and then Screen Gems, undersigned by J&D). So those details are known.

When Dean sang on "Barbara Ann" in 1965 it was in violation of Jan & Dean's artist contract with Screen Gems. And he's lucky they didn't find out at the time. They might well have sued him, Jan & Dean, the Beach Boys, and Capitol Records . . . especially on the heels of Screen Gems's wide-ranging lawsuit against Jan and Lou Adler, et al,  the previous year.

Dean took an enormous risk with that, and it's easy to see why Jan warned him against it.
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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« Last post by jdman on March 19, 2020, 04:51:49 AM »
Iím looking forward to this book! I guess itíll be explained why it was a no no to work in the studio together. Brian didnít produce anything for Jan. He just sang some harmony. Not sure why thatís wrong. But anyway. Canít wait to read it!
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