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JAN & DEAN => DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT => Topic started by: NateRuvin on May 30, 2017, 07:12:11 AM

Title: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: NateRuvin on May 30, 2017, 07:12:11 AM
The Beatles and The Beach Boys have both had the releases of major box sets including remixes and unreleased content.

It's really got me thinking that Jan and Dean need a 2017 box set! In my fantasy it would be all of their 50s-60s material in both original mono mixes and modern stereo remixes. Also all of the post accident stuff too. Unreleased content. That would be so great.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: jdman on May 30, 2017, 08:14:52 AM
Yes, that would be awesome! But I don't think it will happen. Jan & Dean were not the Beatles and the Beach Boys, commercially. There just aren't enough people that would buy it. Complete Liberty Singles was a great package that actually sold very well. It was number 1 on the CC music chart for several months in 2008.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on May 30, 2017, 12:13:44 PM
pet sounds to me,is the greatest album of all time. I have little time for pepper. So who would choose the track list for a box set? I d like to see all singles and album tracks up 1968,and another box set of jan berry solo material.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 01, 2017, 05:21:17 PM
 I'd love to get a 2 CD Jan & Dean set that covers 1958-68. 3 CDs would be ideal, but a 2 CD set is more commercially viable. The whole story from "Jennie Lee" through CARNIVAL OF SOUND, although a truly comprehensive set would demand some post 60s tracks, including "Don't You Just Know It", "How How I Love Her" and "Ocean Park Angel."

 Inclusion of "Gas Money" also a must.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: NateRuvin on June 02, 2017, 05:33:34 AM
Yeah I could settle for that
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: jdman on June 02, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
I'd love to get a 2 CD Jan & Dean set that covers 1958-68. 3 CDs would be ideal, but a 2 CD set is more commercially viable. The whole story from "Jennie Lee" through CARNIVAL OF SOUND, although a truly comprehensive set would demand some post 60s tracks, including "Don't You Just Know It", "How How I Love Her" and "Ocean Park Angel."

 Inclusion of "Gas Money" also a must.

Yes, that's good. I think the entire 6 song Jan & Arnie career should be included. Also, a lot from early Jan & Dean. Those were very important songs to the development of California pop. They may have been top 100 nationally but they were top 10 in LA. Of Course, some were bigger nationally. The 60's stuff is a must. The 70's? I'd be satisfied with just a couple of songs. Maybe Sing Sang a Song and Fun City.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: rockngrann on June 02, 2017, 08:15:03 AM
I've got a really nice 2 CD set from about 1996, "Jan & Dean all the Hits from Surf City to Drag City"    It has 25 songs on 1 CD + several "radio spots" and a "Merry Christmas" promo  Disc 2 has 26 songs with more promos.
Only 1 song from Jan & Arnie (Jennie Lee) and none of their later songs.
When I bought it, I was looking for "Popsicle". (One of the guys used to push that popsicle cart all over the neighborhood.)
Some of us "kids" from Jr. High were having our own little reunion (4 couples) and I was looking for music from then.
Then, I found it was a much later version of "Popsicle", I don't even know who did the original... doesn't matter, Jan & Dean are my very favorites.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: NateRuvin on June 04, 2017, 06:40:22 AM
I want it all. Jan & Arnie. Dore. Liberty. Post-accident. 70's. 80's. 90's. And maybe even some of the songs Dean recorded with The Bamboo Trading Company in the 2010's.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 04, 2017, 08:20:22 AM
with jan and dean on different labels,how would we get a complete box set? It would be great to have all material on a box set, so what about jan and dean records, who owns them now? 
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: owen on June 05, 2017, 06:16:21 AM

I think the entire 6 song Jan & Arnie career should be included. Also, a lot from early Jan & Dean. Those were very important songs to the development of California pop. They may have been top 100 nationally but they were top 10 in LA. Of Course, some were bigger nationally. The 60's stuff is a must. The 70's? I'd be satisfied with just a couple of songs. Maybe Sing Sang a Song and Fun City.

FWIW I think Mother Earth is the best single Jan made after the accident, so I would have to see that :)
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: jdman on June 05, 2017, 07:10:24 AM
Yes, that is a beautiful song!
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 10, 2017, 08:32:50 AM
  Here's an idea for a single CD Jan & Dean compilation. Haven't timed it yet, but I think all 28 songs are within the 80 minute time constraint. I opted not to go in chronological order. (Inspired by The Beach Boys' SOUNDS OF SUMMER and The Rolling Stones' 40 LICKS sets) This set gives the casual buyer every Top 40 hit yet much more, all on one disc. Timespan: 1958-67


 1) Jennie Lee (Jan & Arnie)  2) Gas Money (Jan & Arnie)   3) Surf City   4) Drag City   5) The Little Old Lady from Pasadena   6) Sidewalk Surfin'   7) The Anaheim Sewing Circle, etc   8) Ride the Wild Surf   9) She's My Summer Girl   10) Schlock Rod Part 1   11) Bucket T   12) Dead Man's Curve   13) The New Girl in School   14) Popscicle   15) Honolulu Lulu   16) Quasimoto   17) Baby Talk   18) Clementine   19) Heart & Soul   20) Linda   21) I Found a Girl   22) I Can't Wait to Love You   23) You Really Know How to Hurt a Guy (alternate longer version)   24) Like a Summer Rain   25) Yellow Balloon (Columbia version)   26) Fan Tan   27) (Here They Come) From All Over the World   28) Batman


 Would a chronological approach better serve this material? Anything missing you'd like to see? Anything included you'd like to omit?
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Surf Route 101 on June 10, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
  Good list, Moon Dawg, but I'd work "My Mighty GTO" and maybe "Hot Stocker" over the RAINY DAY/CARNIVAL tracks.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: NateRuvin on June 14, 2017, 10:40:16 AM
Oh yeah, I'd add Blowin My Mind, Easy as 123, Restless Surfer, Surfer's Dream, Surfin Safari, When Its Over, Horace, One Piece Topless Bathing Suit
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 14, 2017, 04:58:06 PM
Oh yeah, I'd add Blowin My Mind, Easy as 123, Restless Surfer, Surfer's Dream, Surfin Safari, When Its Over, Horace, One Piece Topless Bathing Suit

  Good choices but I don't think there's enough room on one CD.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 16, 2017, 12:34:37 PM
My mate has a box set of beatles on singles, so how about 2 box sets, 1 of albums on cd, and 1 of cd singles, i e dore, liberty, warner, columbia, ktel jan and dean story , and the silver summer, and a bonus cd with 90s. 
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 16, 2017, 06:53:37 PM
  One way or another, J&D are due for a new compilation. They should enlist Mark A Miller to assemble when/if the time comes. Although mine would do the trick as well.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Surf Route 101 on June 17, 2017, 12:22:53 PM
  One way or another, J&D are due for a new compilation. They should enlist Mark A Miller to assemble when/if the time comes. Although mine would do the trick as well.

  I think you meant Mark A. Moore.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 17, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
Why not Dean,to give us fans a good quality box set,
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: surferbee on June 18, 2017, 03:54:23 AM
I've been a long time advocate for a definitive box set. There are so many complications out there that selfishly I would like a set that caters more for the fans not just of Jan and Dean but the Beach Boys, sixties music generally. I would like out takes, backing tracks - rarities as well as the hits. A 'real' box set as we have seen with other artist should be all encompassing.
I understand that production costs are a factor in terms of returns but the Liberty singles CD sold out so there is a market out there. If a 'conventional' set is not a proposition why not a digital box set? There are a number of bootlegs out there - I'm not sure where the tapes of these are or whether Jan left much that could be used.
I would like someone like Mark to be given the commission. The Ride the Wild Surf session was genius.
I guess there are all sorts of issues around publishing rights and I haven't a clue about the ownership of studio outtakes. 
Other artists have overcome these issues.
There was a petition I signed a few years ago but I guess the numbers didn't add up.

Wouldn't it be great to have a box set launched to accompany Mark's biography of Jan.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 18, 2017, 10:40:26 AM
  One way or another, J&D are due for a new compilation. They should enlist Mark A Miller to assemble when/if the time comes. Although mine would do the trick as well.

  I think you meant Mark A. Moore.


 That is correct. Mark A. Moore.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 18, 2017, 10:42:54 AM
Why not Dean,to give us fans a good quality box set,

 Dean did a fine job assembling the 1971 LEGENDARY MASTERS collection, but he neglected to include any of the highly worthy late period J&D singles like "You Really Know How to Hurt a Guy", "I Found a Girl" and "Batman."
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: owen on June 19, 2017, 03:50:59 AM
Personally I would replace "Can't Wait to Love You" with "Easy as 123" and "Fan Tan" with "Three Window Coupe", which I think is oddly overlooked.

Cheers
Owen
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 20, 2017, 05:41:06 AM
with the amount of work jan and dean recorded, theres gonna be people not happy with tracks left out. If a box set came out, we have out takes as well to be added. We could go down the beatles route and have a similar package of 3 double cd of all tracks,and different versions. To get the tracks out.
Title: Re: Pepper box set, BBs '67 box set, J&D boxset?
Post by: 1Jay1 on July 10, 2017, 06:34:31 AM
with hulabaloo concert in the hands of universal, why cant they put out a box set of unreleased material,