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JAN & DEAN => DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT => Topic started by: NateRuvin on June 26, 2017, 03:37:44 PM

Title: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: NateRuvin on June 26, 2017, 03:37:44 PM
FINALLY BEING RELEASED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jgYEpQuBg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jgYEpQuBg)
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Moon Dawg on June 26, 2017, 05:07:12 PM
 Awesome news!  :)
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 27, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
Count me out. I ve never been a fan of this original album. Liberty could have put out an album of all the songs and added alternative version of jan and dean songs us fans want to hear. Ie you really know how to hurt a guy. 
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: jdman on June 27, 2017, 11:27:26 AM
are you kidding? This is a new release in 2017! I am very excited! Yes, in the end, it's the great productions 63-66 and early singles that I listen to the most. But I can't wait for this new release. The way they meant it to be released.
Hopefully, down the road, I can also get the vinyl for this one.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 27, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
i stick by my post, keep the songs, to me jan and dean are best when singing about cars, sun ,surf, wasnt inpressed with the joke about the cripple.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Admin on June 27, 2017, 01:26:27 PM
i stick by my post, keep the songs, to me jan and dean are best when singing about cars, sun ,surf, wasnt inpressed with the joke about the cripple.

It was December 1965. Jan was joking about himself as the "cripple," as he still had his leg in a cast from the severe injury he received in the train accident four months earlier.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: owen on June 28, 2017, 08:31:04 AM
I have been waiting for a proper release of Filet of Soul since I first found out that side four of the Anthology album was edited from the rejected tapes - and that was forty something years ago :)

I understand that Jan submitted two different versions to Liberty. I assume that this is the longer first version.

Owen
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: jdman on June 28, 2017, 11:50:03 AM
Paulina Angel1 day ago
I don't know what the f**k I've just heard, but I think I love it
Reply 1     


The above was a quote from someone that just heard the trailer of Filet of Soul on Youtube.
I love this quote. Pretty much my feelings too. Can't wait for the CD to come in
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: NateRuvin on June 29, 2017, 12:14:17 PM
That youtube comment made my day, and yes, I couldn't agree more. I'm so thrilled that labels still see J&D music as viable for release. Maybe this was inspired by The Beatles and Beach Boys box sets...?
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on June 29, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
Us Jan and Dean fans really need a good quality box set. Wheres the record companies who can get a release. This new release could have  been part of it, its a shame Jan never got to see the release, along with carnival of sound.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: owen on July 03, 2017, 10:47:44 AM
I'm sure Mark will correct me if I'm wrong but, if I remember correctly, Dean owns / has possession of the Filet of Soul mastertapes and so this release comes more or less directly via him. In which case it has no bearing at all on the possibility of a box set made up from masters primarily owned by Screen Gems.

This is Dean arranging for the public appearance (at long last) of something he has always wanted released, as evidenced by the fact that he put about half of it on side four of the Anthology album without any explanation at all. (Which puzzled me, and I'm sure many other people, no end at the time Anthology was released!)

Cheers
Owen
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Admin on July 03, 2017, 01:14:24 PM
Technically, the Filet of Soul tracks in Dean's possession are Screen Gems masters.

By contract, everything Jan recorded and produced (or wrote) was owned by the company, including alternate takes, outtakes, and unreleased material. All such material is now owned by Universal (previously EMI Capitol).

When I was writing the book, Dean told me that United Artists (the successor to Screen Gems in the early '70s) did not want the tapes back after he compiled "Side Four" for Anthology in '71. Dean said that's why he kept the tapes.

There was a story previously that he got the discarded tapes out of the trash.

As far as I know, there were no such tracks with sound collage-type overdubs at EMI Capitol when I was doing my research. Universal does, however, still have all of the source material from the two concerts recorded at the Hullabaloo nightclub in December 1965, onto which the sound effects were grafted.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: jdman on July 07, 2017, 05:34:28 AM
I googled Filet of Soul. Of course, there's plenty of stuff about Jan and Dean's Live One album. I few inaccurate reviews. One guy said that it was just the unused tapes from Command Performance. lol
But I also found some groups named Filet of Soul. The most popular was from Wisconsin. They had a national release in 1969. The funny thing is their name was Attila and the Huns. But they changed their name to Filet of Soul in the late 60's. Could that be because of the Jan & Dean album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PiYPiVqcrk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PiYPiVqcrk)
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on July 07, 2017, 07:17:41 AM
i got a reply from the company doing this album, i m told the cripple joke has been taken out, so how much of the original recordings will be used, Years ago i got a bootleg of the whole album,
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: surferbee on July 07, 2017, 07:30:50 AM
Album has just appeared on Amazon UK.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Bitman on July 08, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
Universal does, however, still have all of the source material from the two concerts recorded at the Hullabaloo nightclub in December 1965, onto which the sound effects were grafted.

This is the version I'd like to hear. I had a bootleg CD that had both versions Jan submitted and I could easily hear why Liberty rejected it. I'd prefer to hear a traditional 'as if sitting in the audience' live recording start to finish, but this is still better than not having it out at all.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on July 09, 2017, 08:44:12 AM
The hullabaloo concert could be part of a box set, i didnt know universal holds the tapes,
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Mike1965 on August 22, 2017, 07:03:29 PM
Would you please make a Youtube video of the bootleg and share on here with us Jay?
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Mike1965 on August 22, 2017, 07:13:51 PM
Best price so far on this CD: 

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Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: jdman on August 31, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
 #995 in CDs &

It's been awhile since I've seen a Jan & Dean CD reach the top 1000 on Amazon
Today it's at # 995 in CD/ Vinyl sales

Not too shabby
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: surferbee on September 01, 2017, 02:29:54 AM
Release delayed in the UK - now 13 September according to Amazon UK.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: AlJolson59 on September 03, 2017, 09:10:21 AM
I'm a little astounded that we've just gotten a brand new Jan & Dean album... previously unreleased, beautifully packaged and restored in stellar sound quality, and no one has yet seen fit to comment on it.

It's a crazy, daring record for the time, pre-dating Zappa, The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, The Monkees "Head," and Steve Martin's own brand of music and comedy.  For me, Filet of Soul is a relentlessy savage satire on the state of music and live performances circa late 1965, a delightful skewering of Beatlemania and a clever bit of self-satire, as Jan & Dean send up their own image.

The mono sound is crisp and punched up (The live Wrecking Crew sounds spectacular on Honolulu and Hang On Sloopy, in particular) and I'm hearing asides, sound effects and one liners I haven't previously heard on the muddy bootlegs.

The liner notes provide fascinating historical perspective on the hows and whys... I'm thinking the track "Thank You Dean" is when Jan decides to go into the audience?

Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: David Beard on September 05, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
The cripple joke appears in the shorter (2nd) version.  The released version is the acetate that Dean hand-delivered.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: surferbee on September 18, 2017, 01:48:39 PM
I'm really excited to have another Jan and Dean release and the sound quality is great. Cleaned up from an acetate I guess? There still sees quite a bit missing from various versions over the years but it is especially good to hear the clarity of the music - great arrangements and what a rhythm section!!

No credit given to the harmonica player!!

The idea of a comprehensive box set must still be an option????

I'm in the UK so haven't seen any reviews - I would be fascinated to hear how the album was received by someone who is new to it!!!!

Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Admin on September 18, 2017, 02:49:33 PM
I'm really excited to have another Jan and Dean release and the sound quality is great. Cleaned up from an acetate I guess? There still sees quite a bit missing from various versions over the years but it is especially good to hear the clarity of the music - great arrangements and what a rhythm section!!

No credit given to the harmonica player!!

The idea of a comprehensive box set must still be an option????

I'm in the UK so haven't seen any reviews - I would be fascinated to hear how the album was received by someone who is new to it!!!!

The reviews have been mixed, as you would expect. Some have panned it completely while others appreciate it.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: jdman on September 20, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
One thing I find interesting. What's the difference between Jan & Dean Meet Batman and Filet of Soul? Both were half music and half comedy. But for some reason Batman got released and Filet was rejected.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: 1Jay1 on September 20, 2017, 07:28:41 AM
One thing I find interesting. What's the difference between Jan & Dean Meet Batman and Filet of Soul? Both were half music and half comedy. But for some reason Batman got released and Filet was rejected.
i d put money on it, liberty went with batman as the tv series had started.
Title: Re: FILET OF SOUL RELEASE
Post by: Rocker on June 24, 2018, 03:10:41 AM
I'm really excited to have another Jan and Dean release and the sound quality is great. Cleaned up from an acetate I guess?


Yeah, check out this video:


Jan & Dean, audio restoration and Michael Graves
Michael Graves restoring lost Jan & Dean album, "Filet of Soul", for Omnivore Recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAJI1xC7yY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAJI1xC7yY)