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JAN & DEAN => DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT => Topic started by: Doc Smiley on July 04, 2013, 07:25:37 PM

Title: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Doc Smiley on July 04, 2013, 07:25:37 PM
There was talk about 6 months or so ago about Dean doing a solo CD of new material. Is this still happening or is this become part of the Bamboo Trading Company release? ???
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Mike1965 on July 04, 2013, 10:18:22 PM
I would like to know also.  Does Dean lurk on this forum?
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: owen on July 07, 2013, 09:43:23 AM
This story originated from David Beard who said Dean was recording for a new album. He then posted that the title was From Kittyhawk to Surf City. He then posted this:

http://www.examiner.com/article/new-dean-torrence-album-the-works (http://www.examiner.com/article/new-dean-torrence-album-the-works)

So the new album "by Dean" was actually the Bamboo Trading Company album which featured Dean and his daughters on two tracks.

Cheers
Owen
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Doc Smiley on July 10, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
not quite what he was originally was advertised.. vocals on two tracks does not a new lp/cd make ...  ???
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: 2dean2 on July 12, 2013, 08:56:18 PM
I 'm sorry as much as I like Dean I really do not know what a and by a I mean ANY 70+ R&R singer would have to offer the music word. As far as new stuff.
Would he pull a Rod Stewart and sing a bunch of "Standards"  Good Idea .
Would he try and do more Surf Music . Bad Idea.
Hearing the hits he was a part of yes , New Surf by a 70+ NO.
Jan 's Second Wave while pretty cool sounded WAAAAAY TOOOO ISLAND sounding .
 
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Mike1965 on July 17, 2013, 06:44:41 AM
Paul McCartney released a new album not to long ago.  It could be done. 
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: 2dean2 on July 17, 2013, 09:37:11 AM
Yes Satan works in mysterious way's .
i'l bet it did'nt sound like a Beatles Album.
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: sunny13 on July 17, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
I believe that Dean could pull it off to record his own album and it would sound good. He has great voice.  It's never too late !  The Beach Boys pulled it off last year with their newest release " That's why God made the Radio"  and Brian is about the same age as Dean.  I keep my fingers crossed and think positive.  :)
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: 2dean2 on July 17, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Would it be Dean writing it. Or would it be Standards, New material, Comic in nature , Romantic....?
The difference between Dean and Brian and Paul is They were writers and more . Dean altough had input was not a creative person musically .
Also because of the media hype on Paul and Brian there records are almost sure to do well .
I don't see Dean getting that much attention.
He might be able to get with today's hit makers and redo the hits with them . But how many people on and off this site would cry foul as Jan can't be involved ?
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Bitman on July 17, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
In all reality J&D's window of opportunity to create any meaningful new music was in the mid-late 70's. It seems I recall an interview back around that time where Dean said he felt too much water had gone under the bridge for a new J&D album - and that was when they were still in their 30's!  You also have to remember that Brian and Paul were part of two of the biggest music acts of the rock era and the record labels are going to give them opportunites that Dean won't be presented with.
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: jdman on July 18, 2013, 03:16:19 AM
Good point Bitman. We tend to compare Jan & Dean with The Beach Boys and Beatles. While the production and arrangements were certainly in the same league or even better with Jan in some cases, the amount of marketing and support that those two bands got were significantly more than Jan & Dean. And also, the driving force behind Jan & Dean was busy trying to relearn old songs and recover from a horrible accident. Even still, Jan was able to come up with some good new material in the 70's. The vast majority of groups from the 50's and 60's did not come up with new material in the 70's and 80's. At least not successful new material. Jan & Dean are in good company there. It's hard to compare to Brian and the Beach Boys. They are still marketed so well. I think there is another Beach Boys 6 or 7 CD BoX Set coming out in August. Crazy!!
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Mike1965 on July 20, 2013, 08:11:25 PM
C'mon guys!  We all know Jan & Dean were better than the Beach Boys any day of the week.  Can anyone here look me in the eye and say, Dean Torrence could not make a new album?  So what if it doesn't go platinum.
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: jdman on July 21, 2013, 05:34:04 AM
Of course Dean could make a new album. Hell, I made an extended play album. If he wants, he can certainly do that. Chances are it won't sell. My point was not who is better. In my opinion, Jan & Dean were better and more fun to listen to. But there is no doubt that the Beach Boys have always gotten better marketing. Domenic Priore recently said on Facebook that the 4 Jan & Dean albums from Drag City to Ride the Wild Surf were way ahead of what the Beach Boys were doing at the same time. He said that Jan was ahead of Brian Wilson. I agree totally. So why did those inferior Beach Boy albums sell better? Marketing! Also, Command Performance was a great production! Two guys singing with a full orchestra behind them. In my humble opinion, it was a better production than the Beach Boys Concert album, but the BB's went to #1 and Command Performance peaked at #33. Not bad but not as good as the BB's. Again, marketing! So Dean would need to invest in the project knowing that he probably won't get that money back.
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: sunny13 on July 21, 2013, 05:54:18 AM
Jdman - I agree with you completely.  Running fan pages for BB and J&D,  - there are many BB fans who love and respect Jan & Dean.  In fact, Jan is seen as the more technical expert than Brian.  Dean would do better if Jan was still with us, but he still has a great voice.  It would be difficult to compare - since BB are seen as a group and Dean is solo.  Then again, there were people comparing Elvis to Beatles. 
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: 2dean2 on July 21, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Capitol vs Liberty. Plain and simple . Talked to a DJ one time and he said Capitol would "Pay to Play" He also thought Jan & Dean were more popular with the kids.
We really dont need a "J&D GREATEST HITS From Dean either .
Should do all new or none "Surf" standards.
But your right MONEY , MONEY , MONEY at this time in Dean's life not a good Gamble.
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: owen on July 22, 2013, 10:55:35 AM
So I finally found something close that seems close to the actual facts about the Bamboo Trading Company, Dean, and the alleged new Dean album here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=15389.0 (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=15389.0) in a post from David Beard.

The most relevant quote from David Beard is in direct answer to a post asking  "May I ask why Dean isn't a member of this group? Wasn't this his idea for the album? Wasn't he gonna do an album of the same name? Or at least a group member?"

He says:

"Pretty simple really.  Dean had a great time in the studio recording the songs he participated on.  The article link you sent mentions two of the four recordings.  We Gary, Dean and I evaluated the amount of participation that was comfortable for Dean.  At the end of the day, Dean decided that he wanted to be a guest star.  Gary then suggested a self-titled album.

Dean might be doing some more recordings, but that is still up in the air. "

So now we know :)

Cheers
Owen
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: maryw7 on July 22, 2013, 07:39:27 PM
not quite what he was originally was advertised.. vocals on two tracks does not a new lp/cd make ...  ???

...ah!....it's FIVE songs

ALL  very, VERY great!!
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: maryw7 on July 22, 2013, 07:40:37 PM
Owen....also thanks for that informative info   :)
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Doc Smiley on July 29, 2013, 07:28:46 AM
Thanks Owen!
That seems to make the most sense. So Dean doesn't have a solo record about to happen but the hype of him possibly making one got a little overboard.

Nice to see Dean enjoying himself in the studio.. who knows what the future brings. :)
Title: Re: Dean's new CD.. is it still happening?
Post by: Bitman on December 03, 2013, 08:37:07 AM
The CD is out now.  You can order from Amazon here

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMF3NHU?tag=pauplathemuss-20&creative=373489&camp=211189&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B00FMF3NHU (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMF3NHU?tag=pauplathemuss-20&creative=373489&camp=211189&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B00FMF3NHU)

You can also hear a cut here

https://soundcloud.com/#thebambootradingcompany/the-bamboo-trading-company (https://soundcloud.com/#thebambootradingcompany/the-bamboo-trading-company)