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  I intend to buy CARNIVAL in the near future. It's fascinating - well interesting at least - that both Jan & Dean used the name for separate projects where the other had no involvement.

  CARNIVAL OF SOUND and SAVE IT FOR A RAINY DAY: Two sides of the same coin?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Co-lead vocal on Surf City
« on: May 26, 2014, 06:29:06 AM »
  Interesting. Memories become murky over time. I knew Brian was doing the falsetto but figured Dean was in the mix somewhere; perhaps he is.

  Similarly, there has been a lot of dispute as to who played on The Beach Boys' instrumental tracks. For years it was assumed that Dennis Wilson did very little studio drumming from "Little Deuce Coupe" through PET SOUNDS or SMILE, but Jon Stebbins corrected this misinformation. Turns out Dennis did a lot of stickwork 1963-65.

 Getting back to Dean's singing, it would be interesting if the session credits were still around somewhere.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan & Dean in the RNR HOF
« on: May 26, 2014, 06:24:09 AM »
  True re the influences. As a big Brian Wilson/Beach Boys fan, I used to think in terms of Brian "making" Jan & Dean. This is a common misperception. J & D were making hits in 1958, at least 3 years before Brian and Mike wrote "Surfin". No doubt that Brian's association with J & D was beneficial to the duo, but Brian learned a trick or two from Jan as well.

  The qualifications for an act making the Rock Hall of Fame seem very arbitrary and intangible. I was never upset about the exclusion of Kiss, but did not have serious issue with their recent induction. (Dave Marsh certainly did, sparking an online "war" with the Kiss Army.)

 It would be nice if someone connected with the Hall could simply explain why Jan & Dean are not worthy in their eyes. Again, I return to The Dave Clark 5, Grandmaster Flash, and Cat Stevens. If they are in, then Jan & Dean should make the cut.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Co-lead vocal on Surf City
« on: May 25, 2014, 07:13:10 PM »
 Did Dean sing on "Surf City" ?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Ocean Park Angel
« on: May 25, 2014, 07:09:28 PM »
  It sounds better than some of the stuff The Beach Boys were putting out in the 80's. Should have been a Top 40 hit. That's Jan singing, right? Very good vocal.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan & Dean in the RNR HOF
« on: May 25, 2014, 04:33:58 PM »
  Dave Marsh - a Jan & Dean fan - has some pull with the Hall but apparently not enough to overcome the bias of Rolling Stone tyrant Jann Wenner. Rock & Roll once symbolized freedom but Wenner runs the Hall like some elitist country club.

  The Dave Clark 5 made the Hall. OK then, let's compare their legacy to that of Jan & Dean. J & D were hitmakers from 1958-66. The DC5? 1964-66. The DC5 had their share of hits but none with the continuing mythical pull of "Dead Man's Curve" or "Surf City". Did the DC5 have a member whose talents were comparable to Jan's? IMO, nope.

 So, the Hall has inducted DC5, Cat Stevens, and Grandmaster Flash, but not Jan & Dean. It's all very political, not to mention shameful. Wenner should be removed from his position of control re the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Ocean Park Angel
« on: May 25, 2014, 09:45:45 AM »
  Good Afternoon Friends-

 I heard this tune on You Tube and thought it sounded like a hit. My knowledge of latter day Jan & Dean recordings is rudimentary. Can anyone fill me in about the circumstances surrounding "Ocean Park Angel"? After hearing I had a flash of Jan & Dean plugging the record on early 80's SOLID GOLD. Too bad it didn't actually happen!

 Thx,
 Steve

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