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ALBUMS / Re: 1965 Folk 'n Roll
« on: May 03, 2010, 07:31:33 PM »
That's something one doesn't read everyday.  I think it's better than some might give it credit for.  Certainly the subject matter has changed and I suspect that's what turns some people away.  The Hot Rod songs are gone.   The liner notes are a bit goofy with references to potest songs and may have also been a bit off-putting to the young generation.  Is the album a parody, not a parody or a mix of both?

As the USA population was in the process of polarizing, it was difficult or impossible to walk the line in-between.

I think it's a great production.  While the stereo mix at the time did no justice to the production (why was it done that way?  Haste?), the remixes on "All The Hits" compilation presents the tracks in all their glory.  A remix of the entire album would be greatly appreciated by these ears.

A bit of a mystery to me is the involvement of George Tipton.   I'll start a thread on him.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's take on "Save For a Rainy Day"
« on: April 30, 2010, 08:26:27 AM »
I certainly don't have all the details but just an opinion:

Dean, with good intentions, recorded a quite acceptable album at little cost to keep the Jan & Dean name active in a very volatile marketplace.  In an era where artists were expected (perhaps contractually obligated?) to release two or more albums per year, a year out of the market was an *eternity*.  Jan, used to calling the shots for many years, hears an album vastly different to the familiar Jan & Dean sound.  It's not surprising Jan's original reaction is to reject the album.

Listen to Jan's initial recordings post accident -- it's the familiar Jan & Dean sound with some current updates (sitar, lyrics).  Later the songs were quite different both lyrically and sound-wise, reflecting the pop sounds of the day.   Finally, the recordings take on a nostalgic flavor, reflecting the "roots" revival going on in the late sixties and bringing back a little bit of the Jan & Dean sound.

In a way, "Carnival Of Sound"  is a microcosm of what happened to pop music during the years 66-68.  I'm sure that Warner's decision was based, in part:  this album is too schizophrenic for today's (68-69) market.

Today (2010) such notions are put aside and we can fully appreciate "Carnival Of Sound".

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Brian and Dean
« on: April 18, 2010, 09:53:24 PM »
One need look no further than the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann"!  The session tapes are really interesting.  I'm not aware of any bad blood between Dean and Brian.

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Beach Boys Fan Site
« on: April 18, 2010, 09:49:31 PM »
It may be that many are fans of whoever The Wrecking Crew played for.   :) 

An incredible combination of singing, writing, arranging, producing, AND playing.

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Save For A Rainy Day/Carnival of Sound Two-fer
« on: April 18, 2010, 09:45:57 PM »
It would stand that these (almost) directly post-accident projects would turn out well.  The artists and writers involved with their prior projects were still in place and at the height of their talent.  The music  hadn't changed so much (yet) that the music would sound out of place.  It's a shame that Carnival Of Sound wasn't given a contemporaneous release but I guess by that time Warner had moved on.

I look at the years 1969-1970 think that pop music changed in a fundamental way.  Arrangements (generally) became much less forceful and became much more laid back.  I still hear it today and, to me, it still sounds just as bad.

As a example (totally unrelated to Jan & Dean), if one had watched American Idol last week and listened to the rendition of Elvis Presley's "If I Can Dream" -- it sounded positively sleepy.  The American Idol version *paled* in comparison to Presley's even though the band had real drums, brass, bass, etc.  That "Dream" was a nightmare.  It's as if the life had vanished from the song.  I'm not impressed by the American Idol band and it going to Jay Leno after this season is kind of depressing.

Jan & Dean had access to an incredible band.  Who plays like that today?  Maybe Brian Wilson's backing band (The Wondermints)?

End of rant.

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Stereo Versions
« on: April 18, 2010, 09:23:47 PM »
Has anyone heard the other Jan guide-melody versions?

I find it kind of thrilling hearing Jan's voice even in that context -- it's obviously him and it not only sounds pretty good, it clearly demonstrates Jan's direct involvement in the project (as if we needed any convincing).

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Sold Out
« on: April 15, 2010, 09:28:42 PM »
Can still be ordered in the USA and placed in a shopping cart:  http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/jan-dean-carnival-of-sound?format=enhcd 

I don't know what's going on.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Image Banners
« on: April 13, 2010, 01:26:32 AM »
Maybe there some album shoot outtakes.  A few of those have appeared.  Was Dean in the studio at all during the "Pop Symphony..." sessions?  I would think that album would have produced some "session photos". 

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: April 12, 1966
« on: April 12, 2010, 08:47:38 PM »
Hard to believe anyone could survive that wreck  --- even with today's safety features.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan & Dean On The Run concert footage
« on: April 10, 2010, 09:42:02 PM »
If there's tape, there should be film (I hope).

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan & Dean On The Run concert footage
« on: April 07, 2010, 02:14:47 AM »
Hello,

What still exists of the Jan & Dean On The Run TV pilot?  There are video copies floating about but what about the original film or camera negative?  Does the entire concert footage still exist?

If the 35mm film still exists it could be put on Blu-Ray in HD (4:3 aspect ratio).

Thanks!

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: April 05, 2010, 10:57:03 AM »
Extremely cool!  Never seen a closeup of the UK label.  I'll work on getting some things together concerning the Japan issue and posting under the "Save For..." Album topic.

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Hello,

Does any footage still exist of the Jan & Dean movie "Easy Come, Easy Go"?

Filming was only a day or so and I don't know if any location footage had been shot previous to Jan & Dean's arrival on the set.  I've seen a couple of pictures from the set but that's about it.

Thanks!

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CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Rhino UK
« on: April 03, 2010, 01:48:29 AM »
Notice that the Rod Stewart CD packaged in a longbox is also 1000.

The scary part is that if one adds it to the shopping cart it's still 1000 (but would qualify for free shipping   :) )

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There might be copies hiding in Japan, but, if so, they're well hidden!

I don't see anything on the label that would indicate a promo (stamp, etc.) or test pressing.  It looks like a fully released album.

It would be nice to get a story about how the "Save..." album actually made it to release in Japan -- probably a time/communication thing.

Could it be possible that CBS/Sony Japan is sitting on a copy of the final release master?

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