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The Rock & Roll (or would that be Folk & Roll) Hall Of Fame has some serious problems:

1. It's Jann Wenner's baby.

2. There are a glut of 50's & 60's (and even 70's) artists that still should (in my view) be inducted.  Yet Wenner wants the late 70's and 80's artists to be inducted as well and in equal numbers to balance out the show, the politics, etc.  In doing so, the 50's and 60's artists are being held back while first-time eligible artists have no problem.  Unfortunately, many 50's and 60's artists are well into the process of dying from natural causes associated with old age, accidents, poorly maintained health, etc.  This situation is robbing us of once-in-a-lifetime reunions (i.e. The Dave Clark Five).  The Lovin' Spoonful were inducted in the NICK of time.  Wenner missed the boat with J&D.  Peter Tork has battled cancer.  Wenner isn't completely to blame:  The Hollies blew their chance for reunion (though they were finally inducted) and the likelihood of getting Clarke, Sylvester and Haydock in the same room together EVER AGAIN is virtually nil.

Arguments like these seem to fall on deaf ears.  Maybe there is some method to this madness, but it's lost on me.

Off the soap box.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan & Dean...Dan and Jean....on Dick Clark
« on: January 04, 2011, 02:14:45 PM »
Things are changing like crazy -- for the better.  Much of almost impossible to read font has been replaced.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Digital Releases
« on: November 25, 2010, 09:30:05 AM »
Same for USA, along with "Surf City...", "Drag City", "Dead Man's..."  and "Pop Symphony No. 1" (with no booklet).  No indication of CDs yet.  There have been other digital releases recently but no booklet.  256k MP3 (sigh).

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Digital Releases
« on: November 24, 2010, 03:38:34 AM »
What else can be discussed about these releases?  Is Ron Furmanek involved?  I hope so.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Digital Releases
« on: November 23, 2010, 10:21:04 AM »
iTunes will be 256kbps AAC (yeech).  If these are going to be downloads only, I hope .wav or .flac is an option at other sites.  Does iTunes have exclusive rights?  Would like to see cover art reproduced exactly as the LP originals (although a case could be made against using the pink/black "Dead Man's Curve... LP)

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Digital Releases
« on: November 19, 2010, 10:23:22 AM »
It's a start.  I hope the mastering is good and consistent.  I have a hodgepodge of C5, One Way, EMI, BGO, Sundazed...

I wonder if EMI will issue corresponding CDs with bonus tracks?

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Youtube-thread
« on: October 20, 2010, 11:54:32 AM »
Dean didn't have a microphone.  Lip-syncing makes for some strange performances.  :)

« on: October 15, 2010, 08:30:05 AM »
Late, great?  (kidding, yes?) Mr. Dale is still alive and touring!

« on: October 07, 2010, 11:04:55 AM »
If they're on iTunes or made available for download otherwise, I hope that the downloads are available in a lossless format: AIFF, Apple Lossless.  Other sites: FLAC, WAV.  The digital distribution model should make it much easier for companies to offer unreleased tracks, alternate takes and mixes and whatever else might be in the vaults.

« on: September 30, 2010, 09:33:10 PM »
Let's see: The RnRHoF messed up royally with The Dave Clark 5, they messed up with Jan & Dean, they continue to mess up.  No reason to believe the situation will change.  The list of those artists becoming eligible through 2019 reads like a horror story but not quite as bad as the horror story of worthy artists dying before they're inducted because of prideful politics, ratings, media attention, whatever...

End of rant.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: New Jan & Dean Purchases
« on: September 21, 2010, 03:37:24 PM »
Purchased Ride The Wild Surf/Folk n' Roll on BGO for the original wide, better-sounding stereo mix of "Folk n' Roll" -- got the mono mix for Ride The Wild Surf LP on the same CD.

The "Command Performance/Meet Batman" One Way two-fer is OK but the mastering on Meet Batman is kind of flat (but stereo and the only issue I know of on CD).  Generally I'm not too impressed with One Way's masterings.  The C5 you found are great!

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Youtube-thread
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:33:52 PM »
Would I like to see that entire concert!  The whole concert must have been filmed.  Were all Jan & Dean live shows around that time just as elaborate?

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's voice, post-accident
« on: August 20, 2010, 09:41:39 PM »
Re: "Live At Tiffany's"

It's a shame the mix isn't better (still stereo though) and if it is representative of the mixing done during the concerts (phase 2), it sort of underlines the issue of burying Jan's vocals (although the vocals are reasonably clear in this recording).  The instruments are still too loud as are some of the backing vocals.

To the recording's credit, at this point, Jan probably wasn't sick to death of singing the same songs over and over, so he sings the familiar hits pretty faithfully.  "Sunshine" does work very well for Jan.  Throughout the recording there are stretches that are absolutely incredible.

At this point, I wish Jan had gone back to "Carnival Of Sound" and attempted recording his own vocals to the already completed backing tracks.  It could have been glorious and untarnished by 70's pop recording and instrument playing styles.

Just an opinion.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's voice, post-accident
« on: August 20, 2010, 09:11:08 PM »
I wonder if it isn't a case of trying to sing too hard.  On the Midnight Special clip Jan's voice sounds pretty good with decent phrasing but at some points the band starts to drown him out resulting in Jan having to force the vocals louder -- and that's when his vocals have trouble.  Could it be that those mixing the concerts deliberately mixed Jan's vocal lower to cover possible mistakes and Jan (experienced producer), hearing his vocal as being too low, compensated by singing too hard?

Perhaps the touring and playing live (with much louder equipment than what was used in the early/mid 60's) damaged the voice that was left after the accident.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's voice, post-accident
« on: August 18, 2010, 11:05:19 PM »
Listen to the vocal "La, La, La" on "Laurel And Hardy" on Carnival Of Sound.  Remarkable!  Sounds like the same Jan, if a bit unsteady.  I wish Jan had contributed more to the vocals or recorded more demos with just the "La, La".

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