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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: RRHOF- Steve Miller
« on: June 05, 2016, 06:23:18 PM »
  Miller may be ticked off he had to wait so long to get in. We all know Wenner makes a convenient foil in this matter, but you know who really needs to speak up? Dave Marsh. Marsh once wrote some terrific liner notes for the LEGENDARY MASTERS ANTHOLOGY and the dude has some pull with the Hall.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: When We Get To Surf City
« on: June 05, 2016, 06:20:12 PM »
  This is one of the more poignant books I've ever read about a rock & roll group. Greene conveyed the joy of the music plus the eternal unwavering truth that all things must end. I recommend it to anyone with an interest in Jan& Dean or rock & roll period. Hell, I recommend to anyone who has ever had a friend, which pretty much includes all of us. WHEN WE GET TO SURF CITY is, at core, a meditation on life, love, and loss.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: RRHOF- Steve Miller
« on: June 03, 2016, 04:16:09 AM »
  He sounds angry!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Your JAN & DEAN Collection
« on: May 24, 2016, 05:46:04 PM »
  Where is everybody finding PORT TO PARADISE??

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry's Smile LP
« on: May 22, 2016, 10:28:32 PM »
ALL SUMMER LONG (1964) is a superb album except for "Our Favorite Recording Sessions."

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  Mike Love brings out the best in everyone, especially Brian Wilson. Mike is the living embodiment of the California Dream.

  Sarcasm or legit opinion? Maybe both? Mike Love is underrated as a lyricist because he was originally left off the credits of several key songs. It's no accident, however, that Brian Wilson worked with people like Tony Asher and Van Dyke Parks as his music evolved. Brian did write his own lyrics as well. To paraphrase Tony Asher, "the general themes were Brian's and the actual word choices were mine."

 At the end of the day, there would be no Beach Boys without Mike Love. But he does rankle at times. I'm happy Mike is "still standing" in 2016, still bringing the Endless Summer to people far and wide.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry's Smile LP
« on: May 22, 2016, 12:38:06 PM »
I believe Carnival of Sound is better than Smile and Pet Sounds put together.

  There are indeed differences between Jan + Dean and The Beach Boys that casual listeners overlook. In certain respects Jan + Dean seem "rougher" and "more masculine"...if that makes any sense.  J + D were more truly dedicated to the car culture than Brian & Co. Drag City does beat Little Deuce Coupe, if only by a hair.

 Brian was into humor, but not to the extent of Jan + Dean. You won't find "Schlock Rod" on a Beach Boys' LP.

 Having said that, Pet Sounds is a fully realized piece of work. And "Surf's Up" is one of the greatest songs of the 20th century.

 None of these opinions diminish J + D in the least. They are American icons and Surf Rock heroes.
   

 I more or less agree with this assessment. Jan & Dean albums of 63-64-65 are roughly on par with concurrent LPs by The Beach Boys, but Jan & Dean never made an album as good as PET SOUNDS or SMiLE. Jan's accident is of course a factor here. However, I'll take SAVE FOR A RAINY DAY and maybe CARNIVAL OF SOUND over FRIENDS . (And I like FRIENDS, btw. )

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  Jann Wenner himself is a member of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for "Lifetime Achievement in the Non-Performer Category" as of 2004. I find that both funny and revolting.

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  "Fan Tan" could have been a hit, yes. It's been in my head the past week and likely would have affected others the same way!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Second Wave
« on: May 22, 2016, 12:26:43 PM »
  I don't know the SECOND WAVE album well enough to say, but The Beach Boys have always sounded fine doing Jan & Dean tunes and vice versa.

  In the 1980s, "Surf City" and "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena" were always part of the respective surf and car medleys in a Beach Boys' show. I used to wonder how many in the audience knew they were Jan & Dean numbers. BTW- The Beach Boys performed no Jan & Dean material at the C50 show I attended in 2012 or Mike Love's Beach Boys Band gig I saw in 2014.

 Jan & Dean performed tons of Beach Boys' material at their shows 1978-onward. Probably too much, but I understand Dean wanted to please the crowd. Regardless, I'd rather hear Jan & Dean do "The Anaheim Sewing Circle, etc" than say "Help Me Rhonda" at one of their own shows.

 But again, the summer fair circuit both bands played wasn't geared toward deeper cuts or "fanboy" favorites.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry's Smile LP
« on: May 21, 2016, 09:01:59 AM »



I think "Girl, You're Blowing My Mind" is a good indication of where Jan was heading with the music. That song was begun before the car accident.



  Yes, the 3/31/66 instrumental version (final track) would have been a nifty mid 1966 single with vocals.

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  Hello Fellow Fans of Jan + Dean

  A friend of mine had a bootleg version of Carnival of Sound many many years ago. For all I know it was an acetate - 10 songs I think. I thought it was Jan singing at the time. It is a good album, but how many folks were going to buy a psychedelic Jan + Dean album in 1968?

  We'll never know. Far stranger things have happened. "Girl You're Blowing My Mind" had potential as a single.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry's Smile LP
« on: May 21, 2016, 06:07:53 AM »
  I like CARNIVAL but IMO it is still missing a ride or two. What if when finally released SMILE had contained 4 or 5 oldies remakes or a Beach Boys' outtake from 1965 ( a la "Only A Boy")?  The puzzle would still have been missing some pieces.

 Lately I've been trying to merge the nine "real" CARNIVAL tunes with some of RAINY DAY for a point/counterpoint album. I'll post the lineup if it ever gells.

  BTW "Louisiana Man" is pretty cool.

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  "B Gas Rickshaw" AKA "Quasimoto" is an ace instrumental.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Your JAN & DEAN Collection
« on: May 20, 2016, 04:28:41 PM »


 That's quite a collection. Something tells me PORT TO PARADISE deserved more exposure. GOLDEN HITS VOL 2 sums up J&D's classic period as well as any single LP could. GOTTA TAKE THAT ONE LAST RIDE seems the J&D equivalent of ENDLESS SUMMER: a mid 70s comp with a more creative title than "Best of Vol 4".


Good assessment Moon Dawg. It's good to have you back. This board has been silent for awhile.
To be honest, lately I've been listening to the original LPs. You should get some of them. The Greatest hits stuff is good, but check out Drag City, DMC, Little Old Lady, and the rest of them. Those were some great albums and album cuts. With better promotion, I have no doubt Jan & Dean would have had several gold albums.

  Thanks, I always return to the music of Jan & Dean from time to time. Things have been quiet here, but that's not always a bad thing. The SMILEY SMILE message board can get tense at times.

 Yes, it seems DRAG CITY, DEAD MAN'S CURVE, and THE LITTLE OLD LADY FROM PASADENA are all first rate Jan & Dean albums. Ditto CARNIVAL OF SOUND and SAVE FOR A RAINY DAY. I need to check out FOLK & ROLL.

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