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What show is this from?

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MISCELLANEOUS / Re: Surf City - Live Murray The K
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:51:41 PM »
Great that the album exists but the cover gives nothing away. Has anyone tried to buy it? Can we stream it? Was there a video? etc etc

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MISCELLANEOUS / Re: Surf City - Live Murray The K
« on: April 07, 2020, 07:49:54 AM »
Somehow I have never heard that version. It is great. The notes suggest an album: Night of the Proms: Rock & Roll Concert (Live) but I can't find any reference to that. I'll go back and check Mark's book but in the meantime any info would be great.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 24, 2020, 09:12:10 AM »
Yes it is interesting how tightly controlled contracts must have been.
A number of musicians have gone to court to reassert copyright or ownership and I wondered whether - although Jan was seen as breaking contract - he might have challenged his writing credits on Little Old Lady etc had he been well enough and rich enough.

Another factor regarding the limited photos is that there just seem to be not many taken. True of Jan and Dean but other artists of the time. Jill's Pop Symphony photos are excellent - a pity that there aren't others.


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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 18, 2020, 09:47:38 AM »
Hi Mark

On the 'new' but as it turned out temporary website you posted some information about your new biography. Are you able to update us on how its going.
I posted a question about whether it will be illustrated. I've said before how sad it is that the early sixties were just not photographed or filmed enough. I understand why but, as far as I know, there are no pictures of Jan and Brian working together and - part from the Pop Symphony shots very little of Jan in the studio.
 I've read and reread and now constantly reference the Jan and Dean Record which is an outstanding example of intelligent research. I can't wait for the next book....

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Different versions / different mixes
« on: March 09, 2020, 10:23:56 AM »
One of the intriguing aspects of Jan's production and arrangement is the variety of mixes of different songs. Some of these appear in bootlegs but some in official releases. Surf City, for example, has so many mixes - let alone mono / stereo.
Is it possible to identify a definitive version?
I Found A Girl, for example - the UK single and EP mix is very different from album and other versions.

In some instances the mix makes the song quite different.

Don't get me started on DMC.

Any thoughts?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Happy Christmas from the UK
« on: December 24, 2019, 03:56:25 AM »
Happy Christmas and a peaceful new year to all Jan and Dean fans around the world.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: California sunshine
« on: December 16, 2019, 06:48:11 AM »
I would love to hear the music behind Continuous Eternal. The poem is great but the track deserves a listen in itself. I would also love to hear the Wrecking Crew Ginny On My Mind.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: santa shut en down now
« on: December 16, 2019, 06:45:57 AM »
What about copyright? It is such an obvious use of the original tune.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 12, 2019, 11:51:30 AM »
There are so many. Three Window, Hot Stocker definitely - I love Waimea Bay, I Gotta Drive, Horace, A Surfer's Dream. All hallmarked by fantastic production and arrangements.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: October 15, 2019, 11:58:40 AM »
Not as provocative as it sounds!
I just wondered if anyone had a view or a preference for the back ground vocals of the Matadors as opposed to Sloan and Barri.
S and B were clearly important songwriters for Jan and his arrangements ofthier songs are superb. That said, listening to the Surf andDrag City albums there is depth - perhaps down to the three voices of the Matadors that I don't think is as obvious with S and B. Phil's falsetto is brilliant and makes Little Old lady, Anaheim and other tracks but I love the background voices on Drag City et al.

Contractural issues / money / S&B's songwriting and vocal talents perfectly explain the change.

Not a life changing question but I'd be interested in other views. From Linda onwards Jan and Dean became a harmony vocal group rather than two singers so Agues the background vocals are a key element of their sound.


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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Drag City
« on: July 18, 2019, 11:50:18 AM »
When asked to name my favourite Jan and Dean song I usually go for Dead Man's Curve but auditing my listening over time I keep coming back to Drag City.
The driving beat (two drummers and great rhythm guitars) and the immaculate harmonies - plus some great lyrics - it sone of Jan's best arrangements and productions.
I love the way the harmonies build uo and the way Jan layers the vocals - especially his own is incredible.
Almost impossible to do justice live - this is an outstanding studio production.

Listening to the backgrounds vocals on the oddly named From Suf City to Drag City compilation you can tell Jan and the Matadors were having a blast. And I think you can hear that listening to the record.

Great! Truly great!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan Berry Biography
« on: July 18, 2019, 11:45:03 AM »
Hi Mark

Just touching base again. Any news on the stand alone?

Thanks

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: 1966 concert
« on: April 12, 2019, 02:14:01 AM »
It is all speculation of course. Jan and Dean were undoubtedly at a crossroads. Music was changing. The Beach Boys were changing. Whilst this was going on Jan was running down the Liberty contract and it showed in some of the music but there were signs that he was looking to a different future. 'Girl You're Blowing My Mind' was an insight into that. Of course the accident cut into all of that.
For me? Well Jan had been writing and recording since 1958 and seemed to be in for the long term if his medical training didn't take him away!
Jan - with or without Dean - would have needed to change - but he had a strong track record of doing that. The accident robbed us of ever knowing. Of course if Jan had been drafted that might have meant another ending altogether!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jans production
« on: March 31, 2019, 05:00:35 AM »
Hi Rob

Yes please. Too important to hide away

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