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« on: March 04, 2010, 12:00:51 PM »
'Future Jan and Dean releases' now that sounds very, very intriguing.

« on: March 01, 2010, 09:25:01 AM »
Hi Mark

I always feel guilty asking one of the busiest men alive this question - but do you have any idea of when the sessionography will be out? Basically I can't wait!

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: March 01, 2010, 05:24:41 AM »
One aspect missing from this discussion is that however inferior the remakes; to quote: 'the song remains the same.' Let us not forget that we are dealing with some very strong songs here. Although I always prefer Jan's productions it is always interesting to hear other versions. I am glad, for example, that Surf City and Little Old Lady are in the Beach Boys repertoire - although I wish they would acknowledge Jan and Dean.

« on: February 27, 2010, 01:51:14 AM »
Mark thank you so much for putting the lyrics up. Despite constant listening I'd still got some wrong. I used to try and transcribe Jan and Dean lyrics - but the surf and car terminology often made it difficult.
We have often complained about Jan not being given the credit and historical status for his work. I think Roger Christian was another casualty. His car lyrics were brilliant. There is very little about him on the web. Is there anywhere we can find more biographical information about him?

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Just baught my copy of carnival of sound YES !!
« on: February 23, 2010, 10:13:35 AM »
Amazon UK are showing that it will be available from July. Seems a long time to wait. Still no response from Rhino UK about its release. Have other UK fans found that ordering from the States has been problem free?

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Europe and The uk jan and dean fans
« on: February 22, 2010, 10:12:46 AM »
I completely missed Jan's visit to the UK in the seventies. What were the circumstances and do we know where / who he visited?

« on: February 22, 2010, 12:40:31 AM »
The website has been reading 'defaced by soyletmez' for some time. Is it rescuable?

« on: February 18, 2010, 11:44:53 AM »
Amazon have a preview of the DVD release and the quality looks great. Yet another historic release.

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 18, 2010, 07:07:47 AM »
Amazon UK are now advertising the album. No release date yet but you can sign up to be notified when it is available.

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 15, 2010, 01:55:35 AM »
Rhino UK don't have the album on its website (not even as a forthcoming release.) I've emailed to ask if it will be released over here but no reply as yet.

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 11, 2010, 12:22:13 AM »
Does anyone know if this ships to the UK?

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Just baught my copy of carnival of sound YES !!
« on: February 10, 2010, 09:23:23 AM »
What's the difference between the CD version and the deluxe? Not clear from the Rhino website.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Why do you enjoy Jan & Dean?
« on: February 03, 2010, 11:54:26 AM »
i will be one of the older contributors to this board. I bought my first album in 66 Jan and Dean's Golden Hits (volume 2 in the States) and never looked back.
The reason I bought that record when I could so easily have gone for the Beatles, the Stones, the Beach Boys etc was down to radio coverage in the UK at that time. Before pirate radio took off the BBC had a monopoly - they also had various deals with the musicians' union that limited the number of records played (most output was live) and - most significant - the % of American originals played. (This explains why the early sixties UK charts are full of note for note UK versions of US hits.) The one station we could receive broadcast from Luxembourg which was the other side of a range of mountains. This meant terrible static. But this was how I heard Spector and other great US songs. One night I heard the best song I had ever heard. The production and arrangement were so strong and the build up of drama was so good that it cut through the static. It remains my favourite all time song and is - Dead Man's Curve.
AS I was looking through albums in the store I saw that track and bought the album on the strength of it. I was not disappointed and was amazed at the consistent quality of sound that was more than the strength of the songs but the way they were put together.
Ironically, I came to discover that they had put the album not the single version of D M C on that album - but that allowed me a second treat later on.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: February 02, 2010, 11:59:21 AM »
My understanding was that although Dean did rerecord some songs for the movie there was also an album of Jan and Dean and Beach Boys songs recorded for KTel. There are hundreds of sixties / seventies compilations or hits packages that are rerecorded (by at least one of the original artists.) I understand that the original idea for a DMC soundtrack made sense but it remains a huge disappointment that the licence holders of the originals did not exploit the success of the movie with an 'original' hits package.
The saddest thing for me is that if you go on ITunes or Amazon the rerecorded versions are not distinguishable from the originals - the art work doesn't help. You also get people interested in sixties or surf / summer music buying compilations and hearing this stuff alongside BB originals - no wonder Jan and Dean's reputations are questioned by some.
When compared side by side  - what is confirmed is the brilliance, complexity and depth of Jan's arrangements and productions. The KTels were too obviously made too quickly and too cheaply.

Let's hope that those of us from the UK can get hold of this some time soon.

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