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I have interviewed and continue to interview David Loe. David was band leader and lead guitarist with Jan Berry in the 1980's and has some great information to share with Jan & Dean fans.

Please visit for a great exclusive interview, some exclusive photos and an up-coming "memoirs" section in which David tells us about his life on the road with Jan and much more.

:) Mark

Thank you Mary for the plug. Indeed there is a new board over at which will hopefully complement the website. Membership has grown a lot in the couple of weeks it has been open, but we're always on the lookout for people really interested in Jan & Dean. Of course, an interest in other music is always handy.

All we ask is that when you sign up you also contribute in any way you can.


"The Complete Liberty Singles Collection" is having a re-release (already) here in the UK, and will be available soon at a knock-down price (13.99 instead of the old 21.99+). If any fan has not got this great collection yet, it is a must buy.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Europe and The uk jan and dean fans
« on: February 22, 2010, 04:03:27 AM »
I'm a Welsh Coast man, always lived next to the sea (and the mountains as they are so close). Currently spending time between two locations, one in South Wales one in Mid-Wales.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: February 22, 2010, 04:01:17 AM »
When I was a youngster, still unaware of the real Jan & Dean sound, I used to have a collection called "Surfin' USA" which was released on the pickwick label and had 9 of the '77 recordings (it missed "Sidewalk Surfin'" plus 3 Beach Boys songs (the 1962 Hite Morgan recordings of Surfin' Surfin' Safari and Surfer Girl) plus The Hondells "Little Honda" (re-recording) and "Wipeout" and "Pipeline" by Surfaris/Chantays.

I used to play the LP all the time, I wore it out and then bought it on cassette. I also wore that out, and shortly after discovered the "real" J&D sound. I recently made a CD version of the album, with the original front cover and everything, so now this is my almost exclusive listen to those '77 recordings.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Schlock Rod Pt1 & Pt2
« on: February 22, 2010, 03:55:35 AM »
All great answers, but you have all avoided the question. Do you enjoy the Schlock Rod songs?

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Schlock Rod Pt1 & Pt2
« on: February 18, 2010, 12:50:49 PM »
Am I the only one who really loves this song? Part 1 I find is more commercial, but I find when it's combined with Part 2 it makes a great, funny, and somewhat original idea for a song even more compelling.

Think about it, of all the songs in all the world, how many songs sound like Schlock Rod? How many make you laugh time and time again? There are none, it's unique, in a way that only Jan & Dean could make a record.

:) Mark

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 16, 2010, 08:05:36 AM »
I've only had a quick chance to skip through the preview copy I recieved off Rhino, I didn't listen closely enough and got my stereo mixes wrong, will all be sorted soon plus full photos of the booklet and artwork! Trying to get a few things on the site at the moment in my limited time, thank you for pointing out the errors Mark... I'll read through the 16-page book when I get a chance and update a few things.

:) Mark

PS. The review has been update, and will be updated againshortly with more info and photos.

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 16, 2010, 04:09:37 AM »
My review of the new album has gone up on

:) Mark

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 11, 2010, 10:56:58 AM »
Bloody hell,thought it would have been a little cheaper then that,is it around 25 in the uk scooby

It works out around 30 minus a few pence on current exchange rates. Really expensive!

:) Mark

CARNIVAL OF SOUND / Re: Carnival of Sound - Official Release on Rhino
« on: February 11, 2010, 04:27:42 AM »
It costs just under $46 to post to the UK, thats the CD and p&p. Very expensive!

:) Mark

SINGLES / Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
« on: February 08, 2010, 05:51:56 AM »
I have the Liberty single (Liberty 201255) Norwegian Wood/A Beginning From An End which was released over here in Europe in 1966. The A-Side is Norwegian Wood, and is mono and the version that starts with Jan saying "Norway". Is there a chance that this version will ever be released officially on CD? I was disappointed that on the "Complete Liberty Singles Collection" that they used the much inferior version of Norwegian Wood.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: February 03, 2010, 12:34:17 AM »
"Silver Summer" is a whole other ball-game, and sadly these recordings seem to be spreading as much as the ten 10 1977 re-recordings. Again, I think quite a few casual music fans only have these recordings. So with the '77 re-recordings and the Silver Summer versions, there's a huge chunk of the casual buying public who do not have any original recordings.

For me, "Silver Summer" has always been seen as an attempt to make Jan & Dean sound even more like The Beach Boys. Mike Love is prominant on there and the whole sound is similar to what The Beach Boys were doing live at the time. I remember coming home from one of my first Beach Boys concerts and then listening to Silver Summer and was shocked at how similar the sound was.

Even doing searches now on various music sites, most of the CDs are just compilations of these two remakes. And even worse, listening to Jan & Dean on sites that let you stream music don't distinguish between the very few original tracks and the re-recordings.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: February 02, 2010, 11:41:39 AM »
Of those songs, Dean's versions of "Teenager In Love," "Rhythm Of The Rain" and "I Only Have Eyes For You" were great!

But those songs are never on the collections of the 1977 re-recordings, so casual buyers usually just hear Surf City, Drag City, Little Old Lady, Ride The Wild Surf, Dead Man's Curve and Sidewalk Surfin' (plus Little Deuce Coupe, I Get Around, Fun Fun Fun and Little Honda).

As said by jdman, they are "fluffy" in the main, and no-where near the original sound. It's great they were made for the movie, but not so great they are so accessible to casual music buyers.

:) Mark

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / The 1977 Re-recordings.
« on: February 02, 2010, 08:03:04 AM »
What do you fans think of Dean's 1977 recordings of 6 of Jan & Dean's hits, plus 4 Beach Boys songs (recorded I presume because Jan & Dean sang these songs in live performances?) - ok, "Little Deuce Coupe" is also a Jan & Dean track, but you get what I mean.

The thing is, if you think about it, most casual music buyers only ever hear these versions. During the 80's and 90's these were nearly the only versions available to casual fans, and were repackaged endlessley. Even today the number of compilations with these mixes is mind-blowing!

Taking that into concideration, are you happy that to a heck of a lot of people, these songs ARE Jan & Dean? I've been flicking through a few mates record collections, and talking to a few people again, and the nearly all only have these versions (I know, because they always mention "Fun Fun Fun", "I Get Around"or  "Help Me Rhonda" when I ask about what songs are on them).

Personally, I quite like a few of the tracks. "I Get Around" I think is well recorded, as is "LIttle Old Lady" and "Dead Man's Curve", but I do think that these tracks may have harmed Jan & Dean's presence as too many people only know these recordings.

:) Mark

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