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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Dean touring
« on: September 06, 2020, 04:01:14 AM »
Hi Everyone
Here in the UK, Covid has ripped into live performances but looking at Dean's website and hid Facebook page, well prior to the pandemic he seems to have stopped performing. I don't ever remember seeing an official announcement.

Any ideas?

This is a great title. Dead Man's Curve has so many symbolic / metaphorical connotations as well as being ne of Jan's greatest songs / productions / arrangements.

Can't wait.

« on: July 23, 2020, 10:31:37 AM »
These are fascinating. I remember when I was first listening to Dead Man's Curve here in the UK and trying to work out the lyrics I was mystified. The street names were literally foreign to me. Bit by bit I found out the trust words. I bought a couple of Japanese albums that were beautiful but completely mistranslated the lyrics. The maps are excellent. They bring the lyrics to life as well as giving a different insight into Jan's life.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Lockdown City
« on: July 16, 2020, 08:16:34 AM »
There's a good video on You Tube

Also a video of Pan's People (the UK dance group that performed on Top of the Pops most famously) dancing to Bucket T.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Lockdown City
« on: July 16, 2020, 03:50:38 AM »
Hi Everyone

Everything has been very quiet during lockdown. I have been reading the Keith Moon biography - Dear Boy by Tony Fletcher.

Keith Moon was a really big surf music fan and had a record player fitted in his chauffeur driven car and blasted Jan and Dean - especially Dead Man's Curve.

He was a very idiosyncratic drummer but I think you can hear the influence of Hal Blaine (as on Jan and Dean).

Mark writes about Moon in his book.

Is there a story behind this? I went to Andy Lindquist's Facebook page but nothing there that I could see...

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Cool video
« on: May 25, 2020, 04:21:44 AM »
A great video. The usual curse of misinformation. Jan's accident took away his ability to tell his own history so others played around with it - often to their own advantage. It is why Mark's book is so important.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan and Arnie - online?
« on: May 07, 2020, 05:35:10 AM »
I agree.
At the risk of sounding old fashioned - I do miss sleeve and liner notes.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan and Arnie - online?
« on: May 06, 2020, 01:29:38 AM »
Apple Music still has Jan and Arnie.

My longer term worry is that digital downloads tend to be selective and some of the rarer stuff (including "unofficial" releases shall we say) are not out there.

The Dean re-recordings keep coming up too. Sometimes acknowledged as re-recordings but often put into compilation albums with no explanation. You could understand a casual listener not being inspired to explore the real thing.

One complaint I have about Apple Music is that you don't get the liner notes. I have all the albums and CDs and now downloads but wish I had all of Mark's notes.

What show is this from?

MISCELLANEOUS / Re: Surf City - Live Murray The K
« on: April 07, 2020, 02:51:41 PM »
Great that the album exists but the cover gives nothing away. Has anyone tried to buy it? Can we stream it? Was there a video? etc etc

MISCELLANEOUS / Re: Surf City - Live Murray The K
« on: April 07, 2020, 07:49:54 AM »
Somehow I have never heard that version. It is great. The notes suggest an album: Night of the Proms: Rock & Roll Concert (Live) but I can't find any reference to that. I'll go back and check Mark's book but in the meantime any info would be great.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 24, 2020, 09:12:10 AM »
Yes it is interesting how tightly controlled contracts must have been.
A number of musicians have gone to court to reassert copyright or ownership and I wondered whether - although Jan was seen as breaking contract - he might have challenged his writing credits on Little Old Lady etc had he been well enough and rich enough.

Another factor regarding the limited photos is that there just seem to be not many taken. True of Jan and Dean but other artists of the time. Jill's Pop Symphony photos are excellent - a pity that there aren't others.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 18, 2020, 09:47:38 AM »
Hi Mark

On the 'new' but as it turned out temporary website you posted some information about your new biography. Are you able to update us on how its going.
I posted a question about whether it will be illustrated. I've said before how sad it is that the early sixties were just not photographed or filmed enough. I understand why but, as far as I know, there are no pictures of Jan and Brian working together and - part from the Pop Symphony shots very little of Jan in the studio.
 I've read and reread and now constantly reference the Jan and Dean Record which is an outstanding example of intelligent research. I can't wait for the next book....

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Different versions / different mixes
« on: March 09, 2020, 10:23:56 AM »
One of the intriguing aspects of Jan's production and arrangement is the variety of mixes of different songs. Some of these appear in bootlegs but some in official releases. Surf City, for example, has so many mixes - let alone mono / stereo.
Is it possible to identify a definitive version?
I Found A Girl, for example - the UK single and EP mix is very different from album and other versions.

In some instances the mix makes the song quite different.

Don't get me started on DMC.

Any thoughts?

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