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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Surf City YouTube
« on: May 15, 2022, 06:52:40 AM »
A great video of Jan and Dean singing Surf City on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/nFeUEfpN_yc

It is new to me. No idea what show it was on as the licensing arrangements are unclear to the untutored.

Quality good - the guys look good and, of course, don't take things too seriously.

I wonder if there are other clips yet to be shared? I haver never seen them singing Dead Man's Curve at the time of its release. That would be great. 8)

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Rock Dreams
« on: April 25, 2022, 07:50:53 AM »
Hi All

Has anyone else seen Guy Peeler's book Rock Dreams. It features his art on the Beatles, Dylan, the Beach Boys and Jan and Dean.

I have a copy of the book but see that on-line many of the pictures are available digitally - but not Jan and Dean. Anyone have a copy of the Jan and Dean pic digitally? My old book is looking rather tatty. I have no idea about copyright issues but so many of the other pages are out there.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Pray for Surf Interview
« on: April 03, 2022, 07:56:12 AM »
I really enjoyed the Park for Surf interviews. More than just an overview of the biography, an additional take o things.

I was especially intrigued by the "jan and anybody' sections.

Dean is a great guy, a talented artist, and his humour was integral to the Jan and Dean personna. That said, his 'audible' contribution to many of the best tracks is minimal or non existent. He has a distinctive voice - good and bad - and I can see why Jan sometimes wanted a purer falsetto. Listening to the Little Old Lady outtakes confirms this for me.

Jan's brilliance was in creating a rich studio sound instrumentally and vocally and my reading is that Dean wasn't always the right sound. I accept that Jan's voice too had some limits but multi tracking and writing songs for that range made him a stand out singer for me. His lead vocals were important in turning me on to their sound at the start. To find that he wrote, arranged and produced etc etc makes hime undoubtedly the one defining presence in the band. I was always disappointed that live and on TV, Jan did not bother (Is that too strong?) to replicate the studio sound.

For me, Jan and Dean on record are Jan and others (not anybody but a carefully chosen group of musicians). Reading Mark's books has strengthened this belief.

Thanks Mark

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / I Found a Girl
« on: February 13, 2022, 08:04:46 AM »
I Found a Girl is a strange one. When I first heard it, I was surprised that the track seemed quite 'muddy' compared with Jan's very "clean" productions. It has transpired over time that there are several mixes of the song. The UK release was not the same as the US. I first heard it on Folk n Roll - UK release - and this seems to have yet another take.
I was listening to the mon version on the Liberty singles album and the track is so much better. Remember Liberty put out the wrong Dead Mans Curve version on Golden Hits. Quality control was terrible.
If nothing else, the various versions of IFAG show that even at the end, disillusioned with the record label, Jan went over and above to get the sound he wanted. Just a shame there was no agreement of which version would hit the shops!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Happy Christmas
« on: December 24, 2021, 08:17:57 AM »
Happy Christmas to all Jan and Dean fans across the world and a big thanks to Mark for his two great books.

Happy new year everyone.


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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Etsy
« on: November 16, 2021, 12:46:57 AM »
Etsy are selling at ridiculous cost Jan and Dean 12 inch versions of Such a good night for dreaming - Palisades park, featuring vintage pin ups. They look terrible and a strange choice of songs. Does anyone know who is doing them and why?

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Just came across this 1964 French band Les Kelton's recording of The New Girl in School.

Misses Jan's production but shows the basic quality of the song.

I can find little about the group (seems to have been short lived) or chart success in France.

On You Tube

https://youtu.be/o_oKQgfDjpY

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Lossless audio
« on: June 15, 2021, 08:20:38 AM »
One of the minor themes in this message board over the years has been the way Jan and Dean's music has lost out as a result of compression issues on CDs and streaming. I had and still have almost all the vinyl albums and singles but inevitably I moved to CD and now most often listen when driving around using Apple music. (I have uploaded all my collection including the Collectors series that obviously did not have a commercial release.

The distinction between the rich and deep vinyl versions and the CDs etc is stark. Apple now have 'lossless' audio and I listened today to the Dead Man's Curve album using this. I wondered if anyone else had tried it?

It still doesn't match vinyl but I would say it improved the sound quality. Maybe it was wishful thinking - I hope not.

We were hoping for a digital version of Second Wave without the compression loss. Dare we hope that this will happen and that better still all Jan's productions will have a decent rerelease. Maybe a digital box set?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Phil Spector
« on: January 18, 2021, 10:39:39 AM »
Death of Phil Spector - troubled genius. I know that Brian Wilson much admired him and he shared many of Jan's session musicians. I just wondered if Jan and Spector ever met or worked together.


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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Happy Christmas
« on: December 24, 2020, 05:44:49 AM »
Happy Christmas from the UK.

Here's hoping for a better 2021 including Mark's latest book.

Keep safe. Keep well. Burn up that quarter mile...


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I see that the publisher  McFarland have a cover picture and are taking pre-orders. Can't wait.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Dean touring
« on: September 06, 2020, 04:01:14 AM »
Hi Everyone
Here in the UK, Covid has ripped into live performances but looking at Dean's website and hid Facebook page, well prior to the pandemic he seems to have stopped performing. I don't ever remember seeing an official announcement.

Any ideas?

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This is a great title. Dead Man's Curve has so many symbolic / metaphorical connotations as well as being ne of Jan's greatest songs / productions / arrangements.

Can't wait.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Lockdown City
« on: July 16, 2020, 03:50:38 AM »
Hi Everyone

Everything has been very quiet during lockdown. I have been reading the Keith Moon biography - Dear Boy by Tony Fletcher.

Keith Moon was a really big surf music fan and had a record player fitted in his chauffeur driven car and blasted Jan and Dean - especially Dead Man's Curve.

He was a very idiosyncratic drummer but I think you can hear the influence of Hal Blaine (as on Jan and Dean).

Mark writes about Moon in his book.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 18, 2020, 09:47:38 AM »
Hi Mark

On the 'new' but as it turned out temporary website you posted some information about your new biography. Are you able to update us on how its going.
I posted a question about whether it will be illustrated. I've said before how sad it is that the early sixties were just not photographed or filmed enough. I understand why but, as far as I know, there are no pictures of Jan and Brian working together and - part from the Pop Symphony shots very little of Jan in the studio.
 I've read and reread and now constantly reference the Jan and Dean Record which is an outstanding example of intelligent research. I can't wait for the next book....

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