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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Hall of Fame
« on: April 14, 2020, 06:50:05 AM »
It's possible that it's because they are seen as jumping on a bandwagon and maybe because of the help from Brian Wilson. but that ignores that fact that Jan and Dean and Jan & Arnie actually help start the entire California sound, long before the Beach Boys and Byrds. Also, it ignores the fact that Jan co-wrote those songs and arranged and produced them. Jan also co-wrote many hits without Brian Wilson's input. From the summer of 63 to the fall of 64, Jan co-wrote 12 hit songs, 5 of those were in collaboration with Brian Wilson. Perception does not favor Jan and Dean. However, the Byrds are perceived as geniuses. They simply took Bob Dylan songs and arranged and produced them very well. Jan wrote songs with Brian, Roger, etc. and then arranged and produced the hell out of them. So why the difference in perception? Jan actually did more than the Byrds. But that's the perception. That Brian just gave hits to Jan and Dean. Nothing can be further from the truth. 

« on: April 11, 2020, 09:22:28 AM »
Don’t feel bad that Jan and Dean are still not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. At least T Rex made it. SMH

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 20, 2020, 09:22:18 AM »
WOW, that stuff was serious. It just seems silly now.
So it was okay for Brian and Jan to write together but Brian's vocal on Surf City, Drag City and Ride the Wild Surf was a violation just like Dean on Barbara Ann.
I'm glad they gave the middle finger to all that.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan Berry Biography
« on: March 19, 2020, 04:51:49 AM »
I’m looking forward to this book! I guess it’ll be explained why it was a no no to work in the studio together. Brian didn’t produce anything for Jan. He just sang some harmony. Not sure why that’s wrong. But anyway. Can’t wait to read it!

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Different versions / different mixes
« on: March 12, 2020, 05:07:55 AM »
I love hearing the evolution of how these songs were produced. Jan was way ahead of his time. In the end, I enjoy the final mono hit versions the most. If you don’t have it, I strongly suggest getting “Complete Liberty Singles”.
With that said, my favorite version of “Norwegian Wood” is actually on the new “Filet of Soul” release.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The board is back online
« on: February 05, 2020, 07:17:30 AM »
It's good to have it back! but I kinda liked the new one. lol

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: santa shut en down now
« on: December 10, 2019, 09:05:25 AM »
no question about it

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 08, 2019, 04:58:52 AM »
Freeway Flyer-great choice! Every time I listen to that one in my car, I look around for cops. lol The siren gets me every time.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 07, 2019, 04:15:45 AM »
Three Window Coupe-good one Owen. Of course, the Rip Chords had a top 30 hit with that Jan Berry composition. Nate, I love One Piece Topless Bathing Suit as a Jan Berry produced album cut! However, I just can't put any of the Phase II songs in the same category as the original era. But that's just me. Thanks guys

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 06, 2019, 04:48:53 AM »
Just for the fun of it, I'd like to know opinions on what was Jan's best non hit production. This is really difficult because he had so many great productions on those albums. I'm going to go with Hot Stocker from the Drag City album. That's one I've been listening to a lot and the instrumental track is awesome.But tomorrow I may pick a different one, because they were all so good.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: November 03, 2019, 09:48:06 AM »
I certainly didn’t mean rough raw sound in a bad way. I love their sound. Including their own records. I agree with the great Jan productions with the Matadors. But there is something about Surf City. The dual drums. Dual leads. And the matadors singing “Surf City here we come”

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: California sunshine
« on: November 01, 2019, 09:03:39 AM »
Well, Robin is a damn good singer. It's one of the best tracks on the album. that's a compliment because they are all good

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: California sunshine
« on: October 31, 2019, 02:21:37 PM »
that's the only version I've heard. WHat an amazing song! I can't believe Jan wrote that. Cool track

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: October 22, 2019, 04:28:27 AM »
I agree 100%. Little Old Lady, Anaheim, Sidewalk Surfin would not have sounded right with the Matadors. Just like the Surf City, Drag City, DMC were better suited for them.

DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: October 18, 2019, 05:31:51 AM »
yes, Jan & Dean became a massive group with second to none production from Jan. I like both teams. The Matadors had a rough raw sound and Sloan/Barri had a smoother sound. Perfect for the songs they did. Jan did a fantastic job of adjusting to what he had to work with. Although there was a transition on the DMC album, I think the Matadors did everything though DMC and NGIS single. You can hear Jan mess with Tony on the NGIS session. I think Jan & Dean's raw sound was very distinctive. When people say they thought Surf City was a BB song, I want to say Use your ears. The sound is so different from the BBs, even though Brian is in there. Jan's production was completely different from Brians.

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