"Deadman's Curve" - TV Movie - Article

[2dean2]

Yeah I see what your saying BITMAN . It's got everything to do with demagraphics [sic ]
But if these add men would look at recent pop culture history they would see 2 musical acts that have a lot  a ton of young fans 30-50 and say teens on up . And that would be Jan & Dean from their phase 2 concerts mom and dad dragging them to the local fun park, fair.... And them falling in love with J&D . And Johnny Cash When I lived in Phoenix Az about a year ago Every bar band I saw on sat nite played  Folsom Prison Blues older than any J&D song. So young fans of the music are out there . I do think it's a mind set thing though , IE how many times do they play "Ticket to ride " when  a J&d or BB song would be more fitting. They need to have more real Oldies stations I think good music is timeless and all ages would listen to the 50's -64 stuff.

[maryw7]

Wow!  This is too much!  For sure this must have been brought up before...but i just noticed it (maybe again....however, feels like the first time!!)

Today I am making a copy of "Deadman's Curve" tv movie for a friend...it just started...and on that opening concert it says "July 1966".... JULY!!  How did that slip through??

Did they mean January?  I would have thought it was March. 

[jdman]

lol Yeah Mary, it definitely was not July 1966. They messed that up.

[The Surfer Joe]

Bob Smith ( Wolfman Jack ) "No You take a left at Adams Ferry"...the old guy Dean ( Bruce Davidson ) asks for directions as he walks by is such a funny scene

[maryw7]

You said it, Joe!!   ...sooo funny!! (thank ya for the reminder)

...and JD?  How! could this get past editing?     

Hey?  HAVE we discussed that error before on here?  Must have...huh?  (maybe even in this topic...and i'm missing it??)

[jdman]

Mary, I don't think they cared about a couple of months. They just didn't put that much effort into the details. With that said, there were a lot of truth to the movie. I certainly don't think it was fictional, but they didn't spend a lot of time on details.

[The Surfer Joe]

.......4 cheeseburgers, 4 fries, a tuna malt & a stomach pump
( " we don't have tuna malts " )
killer stuff....

[2dean2]

I'm trying to think if this ? has been bought up here B4 . Sorry if it has . Is that Dean playing the Sax in the Free Beach  Concert  Barbara Ann part ?

[maryw7]

Oh Joe!  Killer stuff!, yes ....   and that line was just at the beginning! of the show, wasn't it? 

....( 2Dean?  ya had me going on that saxaphone thing.  I had to take a look....no way DEAN!  ...at least not as in Torrence...O Torrence )  ( unless you were seeing another one in there... 'n not the obvious guy)

[2dean2]

I havent seen it in years . But I remember watchin it and thinking I wonder if that's Dean. I know they snuck Jan in the comeback concert part . I'l take your word for it though. Wonder if Dean is in it somewhere ? Hey Mark call and ask him will ya ? Thx

[maryw7]

2Dean....well...your bringing up the possibility of Dean being in the "background" of the movie...kind of mysteriously in there, like Jan AND his parents are in the concert scene...reminded me of how surprised i was when i saw whom i thought was Dean in his project he made with Jan in 1984...."Surfin' Beach Party".

Not too long ago...i put together a Youtube with my favorite parts...THEM introducing the songs for videos!!  Here it is....(hope i'm not just repeating myself and have already put it on here!  sorry....if i did...but there's a scene where i believe it's Dean in the car...watch and catch it...i even "highlighted" it with the words pointing it out!....please tell me if you agree, k?)

   Jan & Dean at the Shore Favorite Scenes from '84 ( & PS ...a few more)

[maryw7]

JD...I agree completely...alot of truth to the movie...NOT fictional...however...as you say...NOT much attention to details along with a mighty bunch of "facts" left out!!  ....some distortional fictionalization (new phrase!) too, I must say....i must say! 

And here are some of the BEST frames from this superb piece of film...1977 (probably shot then)

Jan and his parents  (Jan with the biggest smile)  (his dad a couple rows behind him and his mom just seen next to him, however, barely visible on this frame)


And then ...no explanation needed for this!

[jdman]

Nice job Mary. Yes, I agree. It was a true story that left a lot of details out. Some of it was fictionalized. I'd like to say that the last scene actually held some truth to it, but not on purpose. Jan & Dean really did lip sync at this event. A couple of years later, Jan really did try to sing live at a different show. From what I've heard, he received a standing ovation. So if you combine the 2 events, the scene was more truthful. My father cried when watching the movie with me. Later on we both watched Jan & Dean sing Barbara Ann with the Beach Boys on national TV. My dad cried again and said that Jan is one couragous man!!

[2dean2]

Mary I dont think that was Dean. But it's not a good shot . I must say I alway's thought Dean was very personable and seemed too have a good feel for public speaking . However if I would've bought a tape of this I would've been sorely disapointed. It seems they have no director . Very poor performence . And it takes a good director to say "Ok let's do another take" Now I get J&D humor but when Jan say's something like how did you arrive . and Dean has that reaction I think some people would take it as he was mad at Jan. Also using the "Actors" in the videos was in my opinion a mistake. I'm not sure if this was relesed back then But I think it could've hurt bookings if it was. Just my opinion .

[Admin]

2dean2 . . . I'm not a fan of it either. They didn't use the original versions of the songs.