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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: single that should have been released.
« on: September 29, 2016, 08:27:11 AM »
I think another missed opportunity passed by in late 1978, with two tracks from the second version of the Deadman's Curve soundtrack (not the earlier RSO version), tentatively scheduled for release in the fall on Pacific Arts.  I think this pairing would have done well, as the A side has a polished late 70s sound for Top 40 radio  and the country vide combined with the PR benefits of a new Jan Berry vocal on the B side could  have made this a double-sided hit...

LIKE A SUMMER RAIN ('78 version)/JENNIE LEE ('78 Bluegrass Version)

Wait...the Silver Summer version of "Like a Summer Rain" is from 1978? Really? And Jan is on the "bluegrass" version? That's the version that appears on the Dean Torrence Anthology album right?

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Hey everybody. So I have a question (or three)...

First, how many versions of Dean's "Summertime, Summertime" are out there? I know there is the version by Our Gang which features Gary Zekley on lead vocals (right?). And then there is the "Jan & Dean" version which was released as a single later on. This version released as Jan & Dean was reissued on the Dean Torrence Anthology right? That's the version I have. I also noticed that as the b-side of the Legendary Masked Surfers "Gonna Hustle You" single, once more appears "Summertime, Summertime". Which version is this one? And also, did Bruce Johnston or Terry Melcher add any vocals or anything to it? And lastly, I've seen there is what is listed as an "alternate version" on the All the Hits compilation. Does anybody know what this "alternate version" is? I'd assume it's Dean's single version or at least an alternate of that, since using the "Our Gang" version wouldn't seem to make much sense.

Then about "Vegetables". There was a discussion about it over on the Smiley Smile board, and I never got an exact answer. Anyways, does anybody know if the original 1967 version is available on CD? And also, is there anywhere to hear it online, as I've never heard it. I have "Vegetables" on  Dean's Anthology and the Jan & Dean Anthology Album. However, the version on the the Jan & Dean release is surely the 1971 version with vocal overdubs from Brian Wilson and Spring. And from listening to the version on Dean's solo compilation, it surely sounds like that is the same version, meaning I don't have a copy of the original 1967 version as issued by Laughing Gravy. So, if anybody would mind, could you explain the differences between the '67 version and the '71 version? And if it's possible, could anybody let me know if there is anywhere where I could get '67 Laughing Gravy version on CD? Thanks.

Lastly, does anybody know if the Legendary Masked Surfers version of "Summer Means Fun" is available on CD or other digital means? Same with Dean's re-recording/remix of "Sidewalk Surfin'" which released in '76 as Jan & Dean. Is that available anywhere?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: A Christmas present from 2011
« on: February 07, 2014, 10:27:55 PM »
Very good interview. Super informative.

His attitude is kinda shitty though, just in general. Kinda put Jan's last 30 years down in a way that I don't think he would if Jan was still alive.

I also think it's a shame he acted like he "couldn't be creative anymore" or whatever because of the "political or economic situation." So reading between the lines with that one, it sounds like he's more worried about protecting his money from taxes by President Obama. Kinda stupid if you ask me. He should be trying to have fun with life instead of acting like a cranky old fart.

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Has Dean ever been questioned about why he allowed this material to come out as "Jan & Dean"?

As recently as last year, he did the artwork for that CD called Surf's  Up which is pretty much just a reissue of Silver Summer. And by doing the artwork, it seems like he has no problem with the fact that it's labeled as such.

And what's worse, this isn't a release that's just hanging around the internet. I actually saw this CD available at a nearby record store. They had no other "Jan & Dean" CDs but they had that one. Shame on Dean.

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Wow. I hate to be mean about this, but what an asshole move by Dean.

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Sorry to dredge this old topic up, but I thought it was interesting. Does anybody know why, if Jan was so against Silver Summer, he would be in a commercial promoting the album? Just his sense of brotherhood with Dean maybe?

And as far as Jan on "Barbara Ann", I read that in the Passmore book, but I sure don't hear him on there.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Fun City CD
« on: August 13, 2013, 07:36:32 PM »
Hey everybody, today I had the Fun City CD by Jan & Dean delivered. It's pretty nice. It's a CD-R that's manufactured on demand when one orders is it from Amazon, but it is in fact an official release. And it's cool to finally have great stuff like "Fun City" and "Little Queenie" finally out there on an official CD. I'm pretty sure it's vinyl sourced, but it's still pretty nice sounding. The package itself is pretty nice looking too.

I'd also like to mention how much that on "Blue Moon Shuffle" Jan really sounds like how Brian Wilson would sound around the 2000s. Kinda weird.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan's "writing" on Carnival of Sound
« on: May 10, 2013, 08:33:52 PM »
Hey, so I was reading Mark Thomas Passmore's book and Jan & Dean, and it makes it sound as though Jan didn't really have much of anything to do with the writing of "Hawaii" and "Fan Tan". I'm pretty sure he said "Hawaii" was music by Jill Gibson and basically lyrics by Roger Christian. And for "Fan Tan" he basically said that the music was by Don Altfeld and Jill Gibson with lyrics by Jan and Roger Christian. However, if Jan couldn't really communicate well, how did he contribute lyrics?

I'm hoping that there was true hands on involvement from Jan, because I really like those two songs, and I'd be disappointed his name was just on the credits to help him feel better.

And on a different issue, I know a backing track was recorded for "Girl, You're Blowing My Mind" before the accident, but anyways, were the melody and lyrics for the song conceived before or after the accident? Either way, it totally sounds like a hit, even today. It's a shame that one wasn't released back in '68.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Legendary Masked Surfers CD
« on: May 08, 2013, 07:42:06 PM »
Really? Nobody knows anything about this?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan berry Anthology
« on: April 24, 2013, 09:01:05 PM »
How how i love her 1978(not the second wave version)

There is a version of "How-How I Love Her" on Second Wave? I'm pretty sure there's not.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Legendary Masked Surfers CD
« on: April 23, 2013, 10:13:51 PM »
So I was considering buying a copy of the Legendary Masked Surfers CD Jan & Dean's Golden Summer Days, but before getting it, I just wanted to be sure of what the songs on it actually are. Are they the 1977 re-recordings? Or what was gonna be soundtrack of the Dead Man's Curve movie? Or is it the Silver Summer album?

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Also Mark (or anybody else who can help), I read somewhere that Jan actually DOES appear on the version of "Barbara Ann" done for Silver Summer? Also, if he was so against the album, why did he appear with Dean in the commercial to help sell it?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Sidewalk Surfin' CD
« on: April 11, 2013, 08:13:32 PM »

This is pretty much a bootleg . . .


Disc One:

Tracks 1-10 are re-recordings by Dean and Papa . . . originally released on K-Tel's The Jan & Dean Story in 1977. No participation by Jan.

Tracks 11-13 are from Jan & Dean's California Special, which aired on TV in 1979. Jan & Dean with Papa. Glen Campbell guested with the band. Narrated by Casey Kasem. Surfing footage by Dale Davis. Also featured the "Surf City" segment from Jan & Dean's unreleased Surf Scene TV pilot from 1963. Additional guests included Richard Hatch and Bruce Davison, who played Jan & Dean in the 1978 film Deadman's Curve.


Disc Two:

Tracks 1-5 are outtakes, backing tracks, or aternate versions of original J&D material.

Tracks 6-12 are from Jan Berry's 1970s releases on the Ode and A&M labels. "Don't You Just Know It" was a duet with Brian Wilson. "Fun City" featured both Jan & Dean and was released as Jan & Dean. "Skateboard Surfin' USA (Sidewalk Surfin' with Me)" featured a guest appearance by Dean Torrence on lead falsetto, but was a Jan Berry solo release. All others were Jan Berry solo material.

Track 13 is a 1964 studio outtake from the "Little Old Lady" sessions, featuring experimental falsetto parts by Dean. These were never used. The lead falsetto on the released version was sung by Phil Sloan.

Tracks 14-15 are 1970s Jan Berry solo material.

Hey Mark, is there any legitimate CDs out there with stuff like "Fun City", "Totally Wild", and any of the others? I know Dean's anthology has "Ocean Park Angel", but that's about it. Anybody know? I'd like to have a copy of those songs on a legitimate CD.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Sidewalk Surfin' CD
« on: April 07, 2013, 02:01:20 PM »
You say it's "pretty much" a bootleg. But it has a barcode on it, and pretty much all the material is officially released beforehand. Did they get the rights to this material? It seems like this collection is legitimate. Maybe I'm wrong though, as obviously I'm not as well versed in the world of Jan & Dean as you are, Mark.

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When was the Silver Summer material recorded Mark? And why wasn't Dean bothered to get Jan to participate? It seems like he figured he could get Mike Love for a "Jan and Dean" album, so why not, say...JAN?!?

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