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Title: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Admin on January 01, 2010, 01:01:23 AM
1966

NORWEGIAN WOOD (Lennon - McCartney)
I Can't Wait to Love You  (Jan Berry - Roger  Christian - George Tipton)
Liberty 55856 (January)

RELEASE CANCELLED
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BATMAN (Jan Berry - Don Altfeld - Fred Wieder)
Bucket T (Jan Berry - Roger  Christian - Don Altfeld)
Liberty 55860 - (January)

(http://www.jananddean-janberry.com/images/top-100.gif) CHARTS: BILLBOARD #66 CASH BOX #60

Arranged and Produced by Jan Berry for Screen Gems, Inc.

"Bucket T" Reflects Jan Berry's Restored Songwriting Credit, as of January 2002.

Jan & Dean - Batman - 45 rpm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qPmho1Uj4#)
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ARIL 12, 1966
JAN BERRY'S AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT
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POPSICLE (Cason - Russell)
Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (Lennon - McCartney)
Liberty 55886 - (May)

POST-ACCIDENT RELEASE OF PRE-ACCIDENT MATERIAL

(http://www.jananddean-janberry.com/images/top-30.gif) CHARTS: BILLBOARD #21 CASH BOX #24

Arranged and Produced by Jan Berry for Screen Gems, Inc.

Jan & Dean - Popsicle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh0HXX3xApU#)

Jan & Dean Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2mQmLwdnEk#)
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FIDDLE AROUND (Kusik - Ballard)
A Surfer's Dream * (Jill Gibson - Don Altfeld)
Liberty 55905 - (July)

POST-ACCIDENT RELEASE OF PRE-ACCIDENT MATERIAL

* Vocal Duet Jan Berry and Jill Gibson

(http://www.jananddean-janberry.com/images/top-100.gif) CHART: BILLBOARD #93

Arranged and Produced by Jan Berry for Screen Gems, Inc.
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Summertime, Summertime (Jameson - Feller)
California Lullabye  (Dean Torrence)

J&D Record Co., JD-001. Issued as "Jan and Dean" (July)

Produced by Dean Torrence
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Summertime ( Jameson - Feller)
California Lullaby (Dean Torrence)

Magic Lamp, ML-401-S. Issued as "Jan and Dean" (August)

Produced by Dean Torrence
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Summertime, Summertime (Jameson - Feller)
California Lullaby (Dean Torrence)

J&D Record Co., JD401. Issued as "Jan and Dean" (August)

Produced by Dean Torrence
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School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) (Chuck Berry)
The New Girl In School (Jan Berry - Brian Wilson - Roger Christian - Bob Norberg)
Liberty 55923 - (October)

POST-ACCIDENT RELEASE OF PRE-ACCIDENT MATERIAL

Arranged and Produced by Jan Berry for Screen Gems, Inc.
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Like A Summer Rain (Zekley - Dean)
Louisiana Man (Kershaw - Kershaw)

J&D Record Co., J&D 402. Issued as "Jan and Dean" (October) - Three pressings.

Produced by Dean Torrence

"Louisiana Man" produced by Jan Berry (Pre-Accident)
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: David Beard on January 04, 2010, 07:26:11 PM
Why aren't these in chronological order?
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Admin on January 04, 2010, 10:40:48 PM
Why aren't these in chronological order?

They are now.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: jdman on January 05, 2010, 04:48:38 AM
I Can't Wait to Love You  is one of my favorite Jan Berry songs. Was that arranged and produced by Jan Berry or did George Tipton have something to do with that one?
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: David Beard on January 05, 2010, 06:10:00 AM
"Louisiana Man" produced by Jan Berry (Pre-Accident)

Jan produced the track, but not the finished product. Dean gave him the credit. Rightly so.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on January 05, 2010, 07:48:40 AM
I Can't Wait to Love You  is one of my favorite Jan Berry songs. Was that arranged and produced by Jan Berry or did George Tipton have something to do with that one?

George Tipton collaborated with Jan as an anrranger beginning with Pop Symphony in 1965.

George isn't credited as an arranger on the '65 single label for "I Can't Wait To Love You," but he shared arranging credited on the album from which the song was taken Folk 'n Roll.

Jan bounced everything off George after Pop Symphony.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: jdman on January 05, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
Jan worked with George for Pop Symphony and after. Was this mainly for the orchestra? Jan was a very established arranger and producer at this time, so it seems funny that he would need help all of a sudden. Do you know what George was able to do to help Jan?
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on January 05, 2010, 10:29:22 PM
Jan worked with George for Pop Symphony and after. Was this mainly for the orchestra? Jan was a very established arranger and producer at this time, so it seems funny that he would need help all of a sudden. Do you know what George was able to do to help Jan?

Jan didn't "need help all of a sudden" . . . from a strictly musical standpoint.

George and Jan became friends, and developed a great working relationship. It was also a time when Jan was heavily immersed in his second year of medical school . . . while simultaneously dealing with extra film and television commitments like Easy Come, Easy Go, and On the Run.

M.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: jdman on January 06, 2010, 07:03:55 AM
Thanks Mark. Whenever I see someone's name on a Jan & Dean record, I'm curious about what they contributed. I know Jan was always the leader, but was curious about what George contributed to the 2 or 3 albums his name is on.

As always, thanks for all you do
Jdman
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: scooby1970 on February 08, 2010, 05:51:56 AM
I have the Liberty single (Liberty 201255) Norwegian Wood/A Beginning From An End which was released over here in Europe in 1966. The A-Side is Norwegian Wood, and is mono and the version that starts with Jan saying "Norway". Is there a chance that this version will ever be released officially on CD? I was disappointed that on the "Complete Liberty Singles Collection" that they used the much inferior version of Norwegian Wood.

:) Mark
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on March 30, 2010, 06:13:11 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure why they didn't use the "Norway" version--I like that one better, too.  I'd love to find a copy of the European single that you have.  I did, however, manage to find a mint "Like A Summer Rain"/"Louisiana Man" single on the J & D Records label on eBay a while back--I'd like to find out how many copies of it were pressed.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: 11bees on July 01, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
I have a copy of the Like a Summer Rain single with ONLY that song (A and B sides). There doesn't seem to be any difference in the mixes (both mono), so is this just a promo (its not indicated as such)? It is on the color Jan & Dean label if that helps.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 13, 2010, 10:32:59 PM
I have a copy of the Like a Summer Rain single with ONLY that song (A and B sides). There doesn't seem to be any difference in the mixes (both mono), so is this just a promo (its not indicated as such)? It is on the color Jan & Dean label if that helps.

Interesting! I didn't know that one existed.  Mine's on the color J & D label, too.  Yours must be some kind of promo--which is strange, because that's always indicated somewhere on the label.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: maryw7 on November 15, 2010, 04:53:21 PM
Wow...this is such an interesting thread.  I have never seen any of those 45's.... besides the pictured ones here....11bees is saying he has a single of "Like a Summer Rain" that isn't one of those?

It never registered ...and i never paid attention to the details about what Dean did that summer  of 1966....releasing those singles, I mean.

I just heard him talking about "Louisianna Man" on the Endless Sky dvd....and that was really really special...how he felt taking what Jan had started, with that song they both had just loved...and add all the funny sounds, etc., to give Jan some more smiles....

Now, seeing that 45 here...that's cool.  (i know, i know.....I certainly should have noticed all this before....I also didn't realize how Dean had put out "Summertime, Summertime" with "California Lullaby" in July and August!!....i swear i did not know that!....and three times?! no less!  I only thought he did "Save For a Rainy Day" much later than that very summer.....i really do think that "California Lullaby" was an important song. 

Thank you for remarking on this thread today....Ripplewine
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: 11bees on November 16, 2010, 09:51:08 AM
I have a copy of the Like a Summer Rain single with ONLY that song (A and B sides). There doesn't seem to be any difference in the mixes (both mono), so is this just a promo (its not indicated as such)? It is on the color Jan & Dean label if that helps.

Interesting! I didn't know that one existed.  Mine's on the color J & D label, too.  Yours must be some kind of promo--which is strange, because that's always indicated somewhere on the label.
Yeah, when my buddy gave this to me neither one of us even noticed that it was only the one song since he has four or five copies of the color-label single and all of the others have Louisiana Man on th B-side. The only other info on the record is in the run out groove which reads; ML.7950.s, with a single letter H 180 degrees from that.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 17, 2010, 04:52:58 AM
Thanks for the reply, 11Bees!  I had to dig my single out to take a look at the run-out grooves.  The A-side (Like A Summer Rain) on mine has ML7950 etched at the 4 o clock position and THANX DZ at the 7 o clock. The B-side has ML 7951 at 9 o clock, DOT + SJM with a heart at 8 o clock, and THANX DZ at the top.  I hope we're not boring everybody to death here hahaha!  The really funny thing is that on the A-side, it says "produced by Dean Torrance"--Dean's last name is misspelled on his own record label!!! The other side says "produced by Jan Berry"--since that is his song.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 17, 2010, 04:56:04 AM
DOT + SJM must mean Dean O. Torrence + Sonnie J. Morrow, one of his girlfriends during the Jan & Dean years. I'm not sure about DZ unless it's Don Zirilli.  Did Dean know him in 1966?
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 17, 2010, 05:26:35 AM
11Bees, I'm truly stumped by your "double A-side" single! It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any discographies--actually I can't find anything on it anywhere.  Maybe Mark or David Beard can help us on this one. 

Sounds like your friend has a good sampling of other copies of this record.  I wonder if his have all the same etchings that mine does? I found it interesting that the etchings on your copy are different.  Leave it to somebody like me to get all jacked up by such small details LOL!
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: 11bees on November 17, 2010, 04:30:13 PM
11Bees, I'm truly stumped by your "double A-side" single! It doesn't seem to be mentioned in any discographies--actually I can't find anything on it anywhere.  Maybe Mark or David Beard can help us on this one. 

Sounds like your friend has a good sampling of other copies of this record.  I wonder if his have all the same etchings that mine does? I found it interesting that the etchings on your copy are different.  Leave it to somebody like me to get all jacked up by such small details LOL!
     Yeah, I also can't find anything about it and, at first, I thought it might be a boot since it's in amazing condition, but what a weird boot for someone to make, so now  I'm pretty sure it's legit. My buddy runs a little record store in the basement of a bar called East End in Portland OR and he gave this to me before I moved across the country (to Pennsylvania) so I can't check on the run-out grooves on his other copies. Well, i guess I could e-mail him...

I kinda like how seemingly rare it is...
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: maryw7 on November 17, 2010, 06:16:38 PM
Well...i find those records VERY interesting you guys have. 

Are you saying Dean put those special things right in the pressing of the groves, ripplewine?

And 11bees has a very rare copy altogether....hope you find out more.

Have your buddy check the others, please.  If not...I know someone very well in Portland.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 17, 2010, 08:32:41 PM
Mary--yes, Dean etched the master copy himself with an electric pencil, so that all the other copies pressed from it have it too.  If you have Mark Passmore's book, there's an article in the back on J&D record etchings--they did this on a number of records--you might have some of them. Look between the end of the cut and the label.  On this single, mine is from the third and final batch of pressings based on the etchings on it, according to the article.

11bees--According to the article, yours is from the first batch.  I think you have a real rarity there!  I could be wrong, but I don't think the record is an error;  I don't see how both sides could be the same by accident--I wonder if it's some kind of promo that got a regular label by mistake? 
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on November 17, 2010, 10:14:12 PM
I'm not sure about DZ unless it's Don Zirilli.  Did Dean know him in 1966?


DZ = Don Zaccaglini . . . not Don Zirilli.

Dean and Zaccaglini got busted by Screen Gems for their unauthorized deal with Columbia, and their illegal use of the name "Jan & Dean"  in '67. That's why the Columbia version of Save For A Rainy Day never saw an official release.

Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on November 17, 2010, 10:26:32 PM

Speaking of dead-wax etchings . . .

Rhino Handmade continued the tradition on the new Vinyl Edition of Carnival of Sound (2010)

Side 1 says "Grasshopper" (one of the original titles for "Mulholland").

Side 2 says "Don't Drop It" (one of the oldies Jan was working on before the accident).

Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Surfin Again on November 18, 2010, 03:52:15 AM
Dean and Zaccaglini got busted by Screen Gems for their unauthorized deal with Columbia, and their illegal use of the name "Jan & Dean"  in '67. That's why the Columbia version of Save For A Rainy Day never saw an official release.
**** Screen Gems, as SFARD is an absolute classic of the time ...
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on November 18, 2010, 04:51:02 PM
Dean and Zaccaglini got busted by Screen Gems for their unauthorized deal with Columbia, and their illegal use of the name "Jan & Dean"  in '67. That's why the Columbia version of Save For A Rainy Day never saw an official release.
**** Screen Gems, as SFARD is an absolute classic of the time ...

I agree . . . It's a classic.

Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 18, 2010, 10:56:14 PM
Thank you for the info on Don Zaccaglini, Mark---I didn't know that he was involved with SFARD.  I'll have to get my COS record out and look at the etchings you pointed out.  Thanks for the tip on that one! I think that article on etchings used to be online somewhere. 
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on November 18, 2010, 11:08:56 PM

Frankie the K's "Etchings" list appeared in Doc Rock's Sunshine Music 'zine . . . way back in the good 'ol days before the Internet.
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Surfin Again on November 19, 2010, 06:09:26 AM

Frankie the K's "Etchings" list appeared in Doc Rock's Sunshine Music 'zine . . . way back in the good 'ol days before the Internet.
There you go:

http://www.surfinagain.com/archives4.htm (http://www.surfinagain.com/archives4.htm)

way back in the good 'ol days before i nuked my site
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Mark A. Moore on November 19, 2010, 07:42:17 AM

Dani, would you like to have a section on the main Website here to post some of your materials? . . . like the etchings, etc.?

Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Surfin Again on November 19, 2010, 10:20:17 AM
Feel free to use them
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: 11bees on November 22, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
Mary--yes, Dean etched the master copy himself with an electric pencil, so that all the other copies pressed from it have it too.  If you have Mark Passmore's book, there's an article in the back on J&D record etchings--they did this on a number of records--you might have some of them. Look between the end of the cut and the label.  On this single, mine is from the third and final batch of pressings based on the etchings on it, according to the article.

11bees--According to the article, yours is from the first batch.  I think you have a real rarity there!  I could be wrong, but I don't think the record is an error;  I don't see how both sides could be the same by accident--I wonder if it's some kind of promo that got a regular label by mistake?
I have my man-on-the-ground in Portland looking in to it and will report back if I get any news!
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: ripplewine on November 26, 2010, 11:39:05 PM
Great! I'm looking forward to hearing what he's got to say--I'm also curious whether he's got any more info on the single that you've got; interesting stuff!
Title: Re: 1966 Liberty / J&D Record Co. / Magic Lamp
Post by: Admin on December 27, 2011, 12:12:50 AM

Updated with audio from the original 45s.