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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 08, 2019, 04:58:52 AM »
Freeway Flyer-great choice! Every time I listen to that one in my car, I look around for cops. lol The siren gets me every time.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 07, 2019, 04:15:45 AM »
Three Window Coupe-good one Owen. Of course, the Rip Chords had a top 30 hit with that Jan Berry composition. Nate, I love One Piece Topless Bathing Suit as a Jan Berry produced album cut! However, I just can't put any of the Phase II songs in the same category as the original era. But that's just me. Thanks guys

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Jan's best album cut production
« on: November 06, 2019, 04:48:53 AM »
Just for the fun of it, I'd like to know opinions on what was Jan's best non hit production. This is really difficult because he had so many great productions on those albums. I'm going to go with Hot Stocker from the Drag City album. That's one I've been listening to a lot and the instrumental track is awesome.But tomorrow I may pick a different one, because they were all so good.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: November 03, 2019, 09:48:06 AM »
I certainly didn’t mean rough raw sound in a bad way. I love their sound. Including their own records. I agree with the great Jan productions with the Matadors. But there is something about Surf City. The dual drums. Dual leads. And the matadors singing “Surf City here we come”

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: California sunshine
« on: November 01, 2019, 09:03:39 AM »
Well, Robin is a damn good singer. It's one of the best tracks on the album. that's a compliment because they are all good

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: California sunshine
« on: October 31, 2019, 02:21:37 PM »
that's the only version I've heard. WHat an amazing song! I can't believe Jan wrote that. Cool track

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: October 22, 2019, 04:28:27 AM »
I agree 100%. Little Old Lady, Anaheim, Sidewalk Surfin would not have sounded right with the Matadors. Just like the Surf City, Drag City, DMC were better suited for them.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: The Matadors v Sloan and Barri
« on: October 18, 2019, 05:31:51 AM »
yes, Jan & Dean became a massive group with second to none production from Jan. I like both teams. The Matadors had a rough raw sound and Sloan/Barri had a smoother sound. Perfect for the songs they did. Jan did a fantastic job of adjusting to what he had to work with. Although there was a transition on the DMC album, I think the Matadors did everything though DMC and NGIS single. You can hear Jan mess with Tony on the NGIS session. I think Jan & Dean's raw sound was very distinctive. When people say they thought Surf City was a BB song, I want to say Use your ears. The sound is so different from the BBs, even though Brian is in there. Jan's production was completely different from Brians.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Surf City collaboration
« on: August 24, 2019, 02:35:13 PM »
Just for fun. Teaching the youth about Jan and Dean. Lol

https://youtu.be/Zy3Vz7ln4fQ

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Drag City
« on: July 19, 2019, 05:25:29 AM »
Drag City was a masterpiece! Like you, I hardly ever name that one as my favorite, but I listen to it all the time. Great production!!

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: Surf City collaboration
« on: June 20, 2019, 04:06:41 AM »
Thank you Mark! I'd like to make one more point about song writing. I've written a few. None of them went to number 1. lol but there were times when a friend suggested I change a word here and there. The song was already written, musically and lyrically. I don't think a word change constitutes writers credit. Surf City contains over 170 words. If you count the repeated words, it's over 200. If Dean changed a couple of words, that's only 1% of the lyrics. When you count the music, then it's less than .5% of the song. So if Dean indeed made those suggestions, then he can always say he did his small part to help the song have credibility. But does .5% constitute writers credit? I don't think it does. Surf City was written by Jan Berry and Brian Wilson. There was no reason to credit anyone else. Like Mark said, this was determined before the song was released.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Surf City collaboration
« on: June 19, 2019, 04:34:24 AM »
Listening to Dean's interviews, past and present, one can get confused. Dean has said recently that he has no idea what Jan wrote and that he(Dean) wrote more of Surf City than Jan did. In other interviews He's stated that Brian wrote 50%, Jan wrote 35% and he wrote 15%. He's also stated that he has no idea what happened when Jan and Brian met privately, which is probably accurate. The lyrics were written in Brian's handwriting, but that does not mean that Jan wasn't sitting next to him sharing ideas. Brian and Jan have both stated that they were at a piano banging out keys and writing together. So I guess it's hard to figure out exactly what Jan wrote, but I'd assume he contributed significantly. Any thoughts?

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: 1966 concert
« on: April 11, 2019, 04:51:21 AM »
Good points Spazzatron. At the time, Jan & Dean should have been ahead of Sonny and Cher and Mama's if you look at chart success historically. But 1966 was in transition and Jan and Dean were on the wrong end of that. Popsicle was certainly an indication that they still had potential for chart success in 66. I would think a TV show promoting Fan Tan and Hawaii would have put Jan & Dean back in the top 20 or even top 10. Who knows. but judging from their strained relationship at the time, I really don't think they would have lasted much longer anyway.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / Re: 1966 concert
« on: April 10, 2019, 04:16:36 AM »
Ok, I just found it in The Jan and Dean Record. April 5. Apparently, they were touring a lot. They had shows 3 or 4 nights in a row from Missouri to Ohio to Chicago. It was a Batman theme with the Markets.
What a life! Jan must've been miserable. All this and studying for Med School. and the kids were starting to lose interest. This had to be a tough period for Jan.

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DON'T YOU JUST KNOW IT / 1966 concert
« on: April 09, 2019, 10:20:38 AM »
Someone posted on FB a story that he remembers a concert in April of 66. Jan and Dean with the Markets. He said only 100 people went. That surprises me. I know Jan and Dean were on a down turn right before the accident but they were only a year and a half removed from huge success and had a few top 30s in between. I guess kids had short memories back then

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