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Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« on: January 28, 2014, 05:00:06 AM »
I'm in the process of compiling a cd with all the outside projects J & D contributed to vocally/instrument.Here's the list so far
1) Time Machine (1960) J & D backing vocals for Dante and the Evergreens
2) Alley Oop (1960) Jan may have played the coke bottle on this for Dante and the Evergreen
3) Perfidia. Jan backing vocals for Matadors (1962)
4) Off to See The Wizard. Dean backing vocals for Emerald City Bandits
5) Full Blown Caddy. Dean backing vocals Emerald City Bandits (1964)
6) Summertime Summertime (1965) with Gary Zekley. Unclear as to which version has Dean on lead vocals. There is a version on All the hits from Surf City Doubl Cd and a version On Deans Legendary masked surfer Cd and there's a couple of versions on a bootleg double Lp vinyl Legendary masked surfers with pacific blue label
7) Other Town Other Girls aka Vagabond - Dean Torrence backing Vocals - (1964)
    Gary Zekley Single.
8) When I Go To Sleep - Dean Torrence Backing Vocal (1964) Gary Zekley single.
9) Barbara Ann
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Anyone know of any others please let me know or correct any of the above.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 08:45:31 PM »

The "All the Hits" version is not Dean.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 06:51:20 AM »
The magic lamp 401 released 8/66, single may be the Dean Torrence lead vocal.
Correction on first post, song listed should be Come on Oz not off to see the wizard.  I'm not even sure if Deans on Full Blown Caddy.
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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2014, 11:15:23 PM »
I don't know that Deans on the Emerald City Bandits Single.  They are however listed on a couple of Japanese released comps on vinyl making reference to Dean.  In regards to Summertime I doubt that Dean provided a lead vocal pre  66 but may have recorded it in the 70s re Gotta Take That One L

ast Ride LP.
Good luck with getting them altogether.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 07:55:55 AM »
Thanks
Have to make more enquiries into the Emerald City Bandits single
I located and contacted Donald Drowty, lead vocalist on the single, but got no response. I think he's a preacher now and isn't too interested in his past life. There's no mention of the single in the Mcpharland book so makes me wonder if Dean is on these.
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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2014, 02:05:14 AM »
I've listened to Come On Oz and think Dean is on this,
99 percent.  There is a site Whitedoowopcollector that has the single making reference to Dean.  I can't be a hundred percent sure but it sounds alot like Dean. It's an expensive one hundred plus online.  Get a second opinion before or if you decide to buy it.  I checked youtube there is a download for the track both sides.
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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 09:25:43 AM »
1wally1 how going with this any progress.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 08:42:51 PM »
How do Black Sea,  I made contact with a couple of Doo Wop , surf vinyl collectors in Japan.  To there knowledge Dean is on the Emerald City single.
One of the collectors said that it's common knowledge amongst collectors in Japan.  They couldn't identify who made the initial assumption but one   of the girls

said she's had the single for over a decade and she was aware of Deans involvement prior to purchasing it.  Still up in the air but I'm gonna run with it.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 11:13:58 PM »

What harmony part(s) do you think Dean is singing on these sides?  . . . I mean, specifically . . . Aside from your having been told by "collectors" that Dean is on there.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2014, 02:56:53 AM »
Hi Admin,
No way of telling on Full Blown Caddy.
Support harmony on Come On Oz.
There's no way of being a hundred percent until confirmation from someone who was there.
A while back there was talk that Arnie Ginsberg wasnt on Kathys Crying Heartand Catchin Spies until someone was able to make contact with him and confirm.
Until that confirmation comes my way I'll run with the Dean involvement.A Dj in Europe is of the opinion that the Come On Oz  side was recorded in 1960 during the Dante and the Evergreens Lp sessions, same time as Time Machine.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2014, 05:51:10 AM »
One Wally One I think the European DJ may have something there the track, Come On Oz, does sound as though it was recorded earlier than the release date of 64. Full Blown caddy definitely not the lead vocal for Dean. Backing vocals hard to tell. Come on Oz distinct Dean backing vocal. I mentioned on one of my earlier posts that this single appears on Japanese comps with a Dean vocal credit. Somewhere along the line some one over there must have gotten some form of confirmation from a reliable source to credit Dean as being involved with the Emerald City Rebels. However, like you said you need some direct confirmation from the parties involved. The printed text is never the be all and end all of fact. It's a combination of first person recollection, documentation, audio and photo / film evidence.
Wally I think you should include Ace Of Hearts on this, Jan song, production and the Matadors appear prominantly on J & D records.
Onto more serious things are you from Japan and are you the real Wally Yagi and is that a photo of you. And finally did you manage to rid yourself of the Beach Boys MIU Lp and did you have any involvement In making the record. Rock and Roll has not recovered or been the same since its release.lol


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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2014, 06:57:16 AM »
Blacksea, I agree you need a combination of proof to determine something at the moment Deans involvement on the single is hearsay. In regards to Ace Of Hearts I've go that one in mind.  I'm planning on dispersing these tracks with J and D single track that didnt appear on original Lps, excluding best of Lp, depending on recording date release label.
In regards to Emerald City I think the final point of contact would be Dean. Anyone with a number to Deans red phone may be able to resolve the matter.
In regards to the more serious questions, I'm from the land of Oz, not Japan, although I'd like to go there, cool people. Thats a photo of Hiroshi Yagi a Japanese wrestler. I'm employed as a public servant, Freeway Flyer can best describe my position. In regards to the OBIs no didnt keep em. They had J And D Logos on cut em for cassette covers. Caseettes gone together with covers.
Unfortunately I havnt been able to get rid of the MIU gem offered someone 20 dollars to take it off my hands but got knocked back. Word on the grapevine is the Beach Boys are denying any involvment on the record claiming Gidea Park are and were the offenders.

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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 09:09:00 AM »
Hey dude I've sent an email to this white doo whopper guy in Spain , find out where he got his information about The Emerald City Bandits.
Oz, does that mean you're an Aussie. Freeway Flyer, Black and White job, Australia would be a Blue and White job. Would I be correct.
Sorry to hear about the OBIs dude the mistakes we make when we're young. LOL
I'll let you know of the outcome.


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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 12:04:21 PM »

A while back there was talk that Arnie Ginsberg wasnt on Kathys Crying Heartand Catchin Spies


Yeah, that wasn't Arnie Ginsburg.

"Catchin' Spies" b/w "Kathy Cryin' Heart" was written and recorded by Alan Burn, and released on Tuesday Records:


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Re: Jan and Dean Outside Projects Pre 66
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2014, 12:33:22 PM »
Admin,
You fried me there man. I didn't even know a vinyl 45 existed. Was always under the impression this was an unreleased track.

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