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Doc Smiley

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collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« on: May 08, 2010, 06:44:36 PM »
Hey Guys,

If I want to pick up a fairly complete collection of the early tunes, is
Jan and Dean's  Complete Early Years on Sparkletone label (germany) a decent buy?
(quality and completeness)


JAN & DEAN 'The Complete Early Years'
   1.
      Jennie Lee
   2.
      Gotta Getta Date
   3.
      Bonnie Lou
   4.
      Gas Money
   5.
      I Love Linda
   6.
      The Beat That Can't Be Beat
   7.
      Baby Talk
   8.
      Jeanette, Get Your Hair Done
   9.
      There's a Girl
  10.
      You're On My Mind
  11.
      Clementine
  12.
      My Heart Sings
  13.
      White Tennis Sneakers
  14.
      Cindy
  15.
      Rosie Lane
  16.
      We Go Together
  17.
      Gee
  18.
      Such a Good Night For Dreaming
  19.
      Baggy Pants (Read all about it)
  20.
      Judy's An Angel
  21.
      Don't Fly Away
  22.
      Julie
  23.
      Heart and Soul
  24.
      Those Words
  25.
      Midsummer Night's Dream
  26.
      Wanted, one Girl
  27.
      Something a Little Bit Different
  28.
      Gotta Getta Date (speeded up alt. take)
  29.
      Gas Money (speeded up alt. take)
  30.
      Judy (alt. album version)
  31.
      She's Still Talking Baby Talk
  32.
      Your Heart Has Changed its Mind
  33.
      Frosty the Snowman
  34.
      Linda (Live at the Brooklyn Fox, Murray the 'K's Holiday Show 1963)

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 10:04:16 PM »
That covers the early stuff pretty good. The live Linda on Murrey the K is not really live. It's the recording of Linda with an audience in the background. But that's a good collection.

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 10:11:54 PM »
I'd go with these two:



TEEN SUITE: 1958-1962 — Varese Sarabande, 1995

Liner notes by our pal Elliot Kendall

1. Jennie Lee - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
2. Gotta Getta Date - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
3. Gas Money - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
4. Bonnie Lou - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
5. I Love Linda - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
6. The Beat That Can't Be Beat - Jan & Arnie - ('58) — JB
7. Baby Talk - ('59)
8. Jeanette, Get Your Hair Done - ('59) — JB, DT
9. There's a Girl - ('59)
10. Clementine - ('59) — JB, DT
11. White Tennis Sneakers - ('60)
12. We Go Together - ('60)
13. Gee - ('60)
14. Baggy Pants (Read All About It) -  ('61)
15. Heart and Soul - ('61)
16. Midsummer Night's Dream - ('61) — JB
17. Tomorrow's Teardrops - Jan Berry - ('61)
18. Wanted, One Girl - ('61)
19. Something a Little Bit Different - ('61) — JB, DT
20. Whole Lotta Lovin' - ('62)
21. She's Still Talking Baby Talk - ('62) — JB

JB = Co-written by Jan Berry
DT = Co-written by Dean Torrence




JAN & DEAN - [Re-Issue of 1960 Dore Album] — ERA, 1996

Liner notes by our pal Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly

1. Clementine - ('59) — JB, DT
2. Judy - ('59) — JB, DT
3. My Heart Sings - ('59)
4. Rosie Lane - ('60) — JB, DT
5. Oh Julie - ('60)
6. Baby Talk - ('59)
7. You're on My Mind - ('59) — JB
8. There's a Girl - ('59)
9. Jeanette, Get Your Hair Done - ('59) — JB, DT
10. Cindy - ('60) — JB, DT
11. Don't Fly Away - ('60)
12. White Tennis Sneakers - ('60)
13. We Go Together - ('60) — * Bonus Track
14. Gee - ('60) — Bonus Track
15. Such a Good Night for Dreaming - ('60) — * Bonus Track
16. Baggy Pants (Read All About It) - ('61) — * Bonus Track
17. Judy's an Angel - ('61) — JB — * Bonus Track
18. Clementine - ('59) - (Single Version) — JB, DT — * Bonus Track

JB = Co-written by Jan Berry
DT = Co-written by Dean Torrence

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 08:17:48 AM »
Did they actually do "Linda" live on Murry the K? It's a weird recording on the "Early Years." Murry introduces J&D, a band plays some background music, and you can hear Jan say "thank you." Up until then, it all sounds live...and then it goes into a recording of the original song. Even the audience noise sounds canned while the song plays. Did they actually do "Linda" live on the show? I would love to hear a live version of "Linda" from before the accident.

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 09:26:46 AM »
...and all or any other genuinely "live " pre-accident (where we can hear BOTH    J & D      !!!!

Someone must want to release them--and I want to buy  !!!!

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 06:05:27 AM »
I bought a copy of "The Complete Early Years" in 2005 on e-bay. I thought it was impossible to wear out a CD, but I did it anyway.  I bought it because it had "Those Words" on it.  I'd made a copy of the CD on tape to play in my car, and of course, I've worn that out also.
Guess it is close to time to get a new CD, but I'll have to get a new playerfirst. Yep, I wore out it also.

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 11:53:48 AM »
That's great Rockngrann. I did the same. I especially love the Jan & Arnie stuff.

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 01:37:21 PM »
interesting so far...
I'm assuming the quality of the 3 recordings listed  here are about the same.

so
songs missing from "the Complete Early Years" are

from  TEEN SUITE: 1958-1962 — Varese Sarabande, 1995
17. Tomorrow's Teardrops - Jan Berry - ('61)
20. Whole Lotta Lovin' - ('62)

from JAN & DEAN - [Re-Issue of 1960 Dore Album] — ERA, 1996

2. Judy - ('59) — JB, DT  single version
5. Oh Julie - ('60)

comments on these songs people?

and the "Complete Early Years"  has
24. Those Words
32. Your Heart Has Changed its Mind
33. Frosty the Snowman
34. Linda (Live at the Brooklyn Fox, Murray the 'K's Holiday Show 1963)
28. Gotta Getta Date (speeded up alt. take)
29. Gas Money (speeded up alt. take)
30. Judy (alt. album version)

which the other two cd's don't have..
Those Words & Your Heart Has Changed its Mind  I'm not familar with either.

so discounting Tomorrows Teardrops, because its just Jan, and recognizing that a version of Judy is available,
only  20. Whole Lotta Lovin' - ('62)  and  5. Oh Julie - ('60)  are totaling missing from the  "The Complete Early Years"

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 04:44:08 PM »
"Judy's An Angel" is the more fleshed-out version of "Judy."

"Julie" and "Oh Julie" are the same song.

"Those Words" words was the original B-side of "Heart & Soul" -- but it was removed for legal reasons, and replaced with "Midsummer Night's Dream" -- The inclusion of "Those Words" makes me think the Sparkletone thing might be a bootleg. "Those Words" was based on a song called "Tick Tock" by the Innocents (produced by Kim Fowley and Gary Paxton). Same melody as "Tick Tock," but "Those Words" did feature different lyrics. Nevertheless, there was tension between Lou Adler and Fowley, and the song was dropped.

"Your Heart Has Changed its Mind" is a Liberty Track (pre-Screen Gems), and was the flipside of "Tennessee" - ('62)

"Frosty the Snowman" is a Liberty track (pre-Screen Gems) and was the flipside of "She's Still Talkin' Baby Talk" - ('62). This was the final Jan & Dean single produced by Lou Adler.

Jan took over on the next single, "Linda."

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 05:39:25 PM »
 :)

thanks Mark

that means really its just
 Jan's Tomorrow's Teardrops  ( nice song..thanks youtube!)
and Whole Lotta Lovin' ( also nice, again thanks youtube!)
that are missing...

Mark,
 Do you know the story on WLL ?

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 06:36:10 PM »
Both Teen Suite and the reissue of the Dore album are class acts in the J&D reissue library. 

It is unfortunate that "Those Words" faced legal issues and had to be pulled from the market.  It is a classy recording with some great harmony by J&D.  I consider it one of their best performances from their doo-wop era.

Mark, is there much documentation in Jan's archives on the pre-Liberty era?  Will the pre-Liberty years also be part of your sessionography? 

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 06:22:25 PM »
Mark,
 Do you know the story on WLL ?

It was a song they recorded in 1962, but never released.

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Re: collection of early works (pre liberty) on CD?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 06:23:21 PM »
Mark, is there much documentation in Jan's archives on the pre-Liberty era?  Will the pre-Liberty years also be part of your sessionography?

There is some, but not as much as the later stuff.