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AlJolson59

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Jan & Dean vocals?
« on: March 08, 2010, 12:39:36 PM »
There seem to be two different vocal sounds on this record... songs that sound like they have Jan Berry leads (or Jan & Dean leads) voiced, I assume, primarily, by Glen Campbell and Tony M., with a little Jill Gibson for good measure.  And there are vocals that, I assume, were supposed to be the "Dean" leads (Carnival of Sound, Laurel & Hardy, I Know My Mind, Stay, etc.).  These, I assume, were voiced by either Tom Bahler or Ron Hicklin?  Good job all, but I'll be darned if I don't hear Jan & Dean on this record, too.  I've been a fan since 1975... I think I know the voices, particuarly Jan's various vocal styles pre and post accident.  So here's my questionaire...
GIRL YOU'RE BLOWIN MY MIND
rumor has it Jan sings some of the bomps on the stereo version?  That was always the rumor swirling around the WB 45 single mix (which is very similar to this one)
FAN TAN
I "think" I hear Jan on this track, though it may just be a very effective imitation by Glen Campbell.
CARNIVAL OF SOUND
LAUREL & HARDY
I assume this is Ron or Tom?  I'd swear I hear Dean's falsetto or maybe a giggle or two in this track.
LOVE & HATE
I am positive I hear both Jan and Dean on this track.  Dean sounds like he's contributing a falsetto part on the "love... love" section... and I'd swear it was Jan singing the solo, second, third and echoed, "Silently..." after the lyric "Don't Waste Your Love... silently...") 
I KNOW MY MIND
Tom or Ron?  Also, I have a recording of this with a lead vocal by Jan ( the phrasing is incredibly awkward and it sounds edited... and varisped fast or slow, up and down, to match the track.  It also has another vocalist doubling Jan's lead.  I assume it was an early acetate... there's a later version with an early vocal by either Tom or Ron - where you can hear Jan's version as a guide track on the second channel)

MULHOLLAND
Is this Dean funning with Jan and a girl at the end of the track?  I also hear, I think, Brian Wilson as a cop arresting everyone?

TIJUANA
On the stereo version I hear Dean singing on this - and Jan, toward the end, singing "go Granny, go Granny, Go Granny, go" slightly off key with his post accdient phrasing.  It's also rumored that the "oinks" are from Dean.  Any truth to this?

HAWAII
is it possible that the lead (as with the early version of I Know My Mind not included on this set) is, at least partially, Jan (another guide track?), with another singer doubled or tripled on top of him?

LOUISIANA MAN
STAY
Ron or Tom, I presume

ONLY A BOY
Jan & Dean

IN THE STILL OF THE NIGHT
This sounds to me like a Jan Berry lead vocal with a vocal overdub from Glen Campbell doubling each line.

YAKETY YAK
Group effort by all singers

Any thoughts?  Have I really gone 'round the bend this time?

More of my little mind at work...

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 01:54:41 PM »
don't forget the laurel and hardy demo jan is singing la la parts and it's amazing to hear jan sing on this demo   8)

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 08:03:49 PM »
AlJolson59,

The credits are in the liners, but Jan Berry is listed on the AFTRA vocal contracts for "Hawaii" and "Fan Tan" (5-11-67), "Love & Hate" (5-12-67), and "Tijuana" (5-15-67).

I believe we do hear Jan singing on the "silently" line in "Love & Hate" . . . and he may be doubling parts of leads, here and there, on those three sessions. But nothing complete. That fat vocal sound in '67 -- purposely mimicking Jan's style -- is mostly Glen, Ron, Tony, Ian, Jerry, Bob, Stan, and Jill

The lead vocals on "Carnival of Sound," "Mulholland," "I Know My Mind," and "Laurel & Hardy" were sung by Tom Bahler.

There is no documentary evidence of Dean's vocal participation on the album, beyond the pre-accident "Only A Boy." Dean's not on the AFTRA contracts for the '67 vocal sessions, nor on the sessions contracted by Ron Hicklin.

If Dean swung by any of Jan's sessions and contributed, it wasn't officially documented. I personally don't hear Dean on any of these recordings . . . but never say never.

The other leads and harmonies were by Ron Hicklin and his quys, including the Bahler brothers and Gwen Johnson.

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 05:15:05 AM »
So if the track for Tijuanna was the backing for a little old lady then im sure both jan and dean would be on this track,just because jan or dean isn t singing lead there on the record,i can hear the go granny go part from jan,

whats confusing us jan and dean fans about the carnival of sound album is that dean did sing on the jan and dean record labels version,i e theres a different version of louisana man to start with,

theres tracks you can hear him on,tijuanna for one but most of the track and backing vocals were done in 1964,and new vocals added later for the warner version,
« Last Edit: September 27, 2010, 05:59:29 AM by 1jay1 »

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 05:48:37 PM »
I always thought Dean had lead vocals on lousiana man. Is there another version out there. I read in multiple source that he for sure had lead vocals on the single version which I thought was the same version on Carnival of Sound.

Dose Dean sing in the version on carnival of sound or is there a different version out there?

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2014, 02:24:37 AM »
Dean is not on the Carnival of Sound version but he did record his own single of it. I have the single from the J&D label. I don't remember how I got it but I think I paid pretty good for it. lol 
Like a Summer Rain is on one side and Dean's version of Louisiana Man is on the other. Jan Berry gets credit as producer of that side.

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2016, 06:20:42 AM »
I also have the Dean version,and should have been on the Album,even as an extra track, I think Dean wasn t wanted at the session,so he just kept away, Maybe he only gave his name was to keep Jan happy,

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2016, 11:39:07 AM »
I also have the Dean version,and should have been on the Album,even as an extra track, I think Dean wasn t wanted at the session,so he just kept away, Maybe he only gave his name was to keep Jan happy,

No . . . Dean signed the Warner Bros. contract because Screen Gems insisted that he sign it.

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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2016, 11:04:28 AM »
Tijuanna sound like jan go granny go,and oinks sound dean, he may have not been there could have been cut from another piece of tape, Mulholland sounds very much like jan and dean and jill at the end of the song, Love and hate clearly hear jan singing silently.up and down and all around,I think Jan sang a lot on this track. He doubled his vocal.
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Re: Jan & Dean vocals?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2016, 02:22:41 PM »
i ment jan doubled his voice with someone on lead vocals.

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2017, 06:10:49 PM »
The only songs I can clearly hear Jan on are
1) Mulholland, with the spoken word outro. This is especially obvious in the stereo version.
2) "Silently" in Love & Hate
3) Tijuana--- (Jan, Dean & Fantastic Baggys on original Backing Vox, which sound audible)

I think that's about it. There's a common misconception over on the J&D Facebook fan page that Jan sang lead on Blowin My Mind, but that's Glen Campbell.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2017, 06:19:31 PM by NateRuvin »